# Non-admin group owners can't edit members of non-visible groups
**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/non-admin-group-owners-cant-edit-members-of-non-visible-groups/39495
**Category:** Bug
**Created:** [12 בפברואר, 2016, 6:04pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/non-admin-group-owners-cant-edit-members-of-non-visible-groups/39495 "2016-02-12T18:04:27Z")
**Posts on this page:** 11
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### Author:  [@downey](https://meta.discourse.org/u/downey)
#### Post date: [12 בפברואר, 2016, 6:04pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/non-admin-group-owners-cant-edit-members-of-non-visible-groups/39495/1 "2016-02-12T18:04:27Z")
Continuing the discussion from [Group owners for managing group membership](https://meta.discourse.org/t/group-owners-for-managing-group-membership/36233/15):
**Reproduce:**
1. Create a group `GroupName` and do **not** select “Group is visible to all users”.
2. Add a group owner who is not otherwise a privileged Discourse user (not an admin)
3. As that user, navigate to `/groups/GroupName` to edit the group membership.
**Expected Result:**
- The non-admin group owner should be able to see & edit group members.
**Actual Result:**
- The non-admin group owner gets an error page and can’t see the group.
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### Author:  [@cpradio](https://meta.discourse.org/u/cpradio)
#### Post date: [12 בפברואר, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/non-admin-group-owners-cant-edit-members-of-non-visible-groups/39495/2 "2016-02-12T18:07:24Z")
This was brought up in the Group owners thread you linked too. lol
[https://meta.discourse.org/t/group-owners-for-managing-group-membership/36233/10?u=cpradio](https://meta.discourse.org/t/group-owners-for-managing-group-membership/36233/10)
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### Author:  [@downey](https://meta.discourse.org/u/downey)
#### Post date: [12 בפברואר, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/non-admin-group-owners-cant-edit-members-of-non-visible-groups/39495/3 "2016-02-12T18:07:57Z")
> [@cpradio](#):
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> This was brought up in the Group owners thread you linked too. lol
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> Group owners for managing group membership
Yes, but since it’s a bug, I wanted to give it its own first-class topic otherwise it might never get fixed 🐛
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### Author:  [@cpradio](https://meta.discourse.org/u/cpradio)
#### Post date: [12 בפברואר, 2016, 6:13pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/non-admin-group-owners-cant-edit-members-of-non-visible-groups/39495/4 "2016-02-12T18:13:34Z")
That hasn’t worked well in the past 😉
> [@Group owners and members can't see their own group unless "Group is visible to all users"](https://meta.discourse.org/t/group-owners-and-members-cant-see-their-own-group-unless-group-is-visible-to-all-users/38357):
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> I’ve just been exploring the new [group owners for managing group membership](https://meta.discourse.org/t/group-owners-for-managing-group-membership/36233) functionality and am loving it! We’re going to really start using this. One bug we found is that group owners and group members are not even able to see the group unless “Group is visible to all users” setting is ticked. This seems backward to me. I think they should be able to see the group. Members need to see it to participate properly and owners need to see it to be able to manage the group members.
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### Author:  [@downey](https://meta.discourse.org/u/downey)
#### Post date: [12 בפברואר, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/non-admin-group-owners-cant-edit-members-of-non-visible-groups/39495/5 "2016-02-12T18:14:56Z")
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### Author:  [@muppeth](https://meta.discourse.org/u/muppeth)
#### Post date: [2 במרץ, 2016, 1:47pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/non-admin-group-owners-cant-edit-members-of-non-visible-groups/39495/6 "2016-03-02T13:47:18Z")
Sorry if unnecessary bumping, but have this issue been solved or is planned to be solved soon?
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### Author:  [@xiasummer](https://meta.discourse.org/u/xiasummer)
#### Post date: [30 במאי, 2016, 6:56pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/non-admin-group-owners-cant-edit-members-of-non-visible-groups/39495/7 "2016-05-30T18:56:23Z")
I think you are right. This is a very important feather Discourse should have. The developer should add such feather.
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [30 במאי, 2016, 6:57pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/non-admin-group-owners-cant-edit-members-of-non-visible-groups/39495/8 "2016-05-30T18:57:01Z")
Is there a bug here for us to fix @sam?
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### Author:  [@sam](https://meta.discourse.org/u/sam)
#### Post date: [8 במרץ, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/non-admin-group-owners-cant-edit-members-of-non-visible-groups/39495/9 "2017-03-08T22:07:03Z")
@tgxworld where is this particular issue today? is it sorted
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### Author:  [@jomaxro](https://meta.discourse.org/u/jomaxro)
#### Post date: [8 במרץ, 2017, 10:20pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/non-admin-group-owners-cant-edit-members-of-non-visible-groups/39495/11 "2017-03-08T22:20:03Z")
Pretty sure it’s sorted - didn’t realize my report last month was a duplicate:
> [@Group owners cannot see group if "Group is visible to all users" is off](https://meta.discourse.org/t/group-owners-cannot-see-group-if-group-is-visible-to-all-users-is-off/56688):
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> When working to add [custom styling via CSS](https://meta.discourse.org/t/apply-css-to-all-custom-non-badge-user-titles/51376), we had to make a custom group for the users. To help manage the group going forward, all moderators were added to the group as owners. However, the moderators aren’t able to see the group on the /groups page, despite being owners.
> [@Group owners cannot see group if "Group is visible to all users" is off](https://meta.discourse.org/t/group-owners-cannot-see-group-if-group-is-visible-to-all-users-is-off/56688/11):
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> Ok I have a PR up at
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### Author:  [@tgxworld](https://meta.discourse.org/u/tgxworld)
#### Post date: [9 במרץ, 2017, 2:53am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/non-admin-group-owners-cant-edit-members-of-non-visible-groups/39495/12 "2017-03-09T02:53:22Z")