# Non-moderator/staff permissions on groups

**URL:** <https://meta.discourse.org/t/non-moderator-staff-permissions-on-groups/233260>\
**Category:** Feature\
**Created:** [July 19, 2022, 8:01am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/non-moderator-staff-permissions-on-groups/233260 "2022-07-19T08:01:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![nathank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/nathank/32/290039_2.png) [@nathank](https://meta.discourse.org/u/nathank)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 8:07am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/non-moderator-staff-permissions-on-groups/233260/7 "2022-07-21T08:07:24Z")

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> [@sam](#):
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> “group owners” is not a real group,

It would be helpful if it was a real group!

My feature request for exactly that:

> [@An automatic group of group owners](https://meta.discourse.org/t/an-automatic-group-of-group-owners/144633):
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> Is there a way to have an automatic group which contains all group owners, in much the same way as [@staff](https://meta.discourse.org/groups/staff) works? I’d like to make all my group owners TL2, and to keep track of them as my site (hopefully) grows quickly. Also I want to change their powers as a group as time goes on, as well as communicate with them and have a category for them. I don’t want to make them all mods as they aren’t ready for that. In the meantime, I can do this manually; however as our tightly managed Forum grows an …

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