# Permanent deletion: Function not available
**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/permanent-deletion-function-not-available/271537
**Category:** Support
**Tags:** permanently-delete
**Created:** [July 13, 2023, 1:04pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/permanent-deletion-function-not-available/271537 "2023-07-13T13:04:54Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
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### Author:  [@OrkoGrayskull](https://meta.discourse.org/u/OrkoGrayskull)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2023, 1:04pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/permanent-deletion-function-not-available/271537/1 "2023-07-13T13:04:55Z")
I have [activated the function to permanently delete posts](https://meta.discourse.org/t/introducing-permanently-delete-post-functionality/207109). However, the function is not visible even after activation.
```plaintext
cd /var/discourse
./launcher enter app
rails c
SiteSetting.can_permanently_delete=true
exit
exit
```
I have already restarted the container, logged in and out again and am of course logged in as admin. Nevertheless, the `Permanently Delete` option is not there for posts that have already been deleted.
I’m using 3.1.0.beta6.
Any ideas?
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### Author:  [@Canapin](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Canapin)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2023, 1:09pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/permanent-deletion-function-not-available/271537/2 "2023-07-13T13:09:12Z")
I just enabled it on my test instance, and it works even for posts that were soft-deleted prior to the hidden setting activation 🤔
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### Author:  [@OrkoGrayskull](https://meta.discourse.org/u/OrkoGrayskull)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2023, 3:08pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/permanent-deletion-function-not-available/271537/3 "2023-07-13T15:08:33Z")
Does the option possibly collide with a setting or is it possibly influenced by another setting? Unfortunately, I still don’t see the function.
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### Author:  [@JammyDodger](https://meta.discourse.org/u/JammyDodger)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2023, 3:21pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/permanent-deletion-function-not-available/271537/4 "2023-07-13T15:21:27Z")
Possibly double-check the setting has been enabled? There shouldn’t be any conflict with anything else.
It also shouldn’t need a restart, you can toggle site settings without one.
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### Author:  [@OrkoGrayskull](https://meta.discourse.org/u/OrkoGrayskull)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2023, 3:22pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/permanent-deletion-function-not-available/271537/5 "2023-07-13T15:22:18Z")
I just checked. It’s activated.
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### Author:  [@JammyDodger](https://meta.discourse.org/u/JammyDodger)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2023, 3:26pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/permanent-deletion-function-not-available/271537/6 "2023-07-13T15:26:56Z")
Hmmm. That is most perplexing. 🤔 How about [safe mode](https://meta.discourse.org/t/53504?silent=true), just in case?
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### Author:  [@OrkoGrayskull](https://meta.discourse.org/u/OrkoGrayskull)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2023, 3:31pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/permanent-deletion-function-not-available/271537/7 "2023-07-13T15:31:51Z")
Sorry. There are two tool icons. I have always used the one at the top right and not the one at the bottom of the post. It works.
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### Author:  [@system](https://meta.discourse.org/u/system)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2023, 3:32pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/permanent-deletion-function-not-available/271537/8 "2023-08-12T15:32:27Z")
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