# Private Message Rate Limits
**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/private-message-rate-limits/88540
**Category:** Support
**Created:** [May 27, 2018, 2:24pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/private-message-rate-limits/88540 "2018-05-27T14:24:59Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author:  [@nsuchy](https://meta.discourse.org/u/nsuchy)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2018, 2:24pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/private-message-rate-limits/88540/1 "2018-05-27T14:24:59Z")
Hi. So a few friends use the private message system on my Discourse forum as a sort of chat system. Is there anyway I could set the system to where if you are trust level 3 or higher there are no rate limits on private messages (or even just something crazy high like 1,000 or 10,000 per day)?
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### Author:  [@itsbhanusharma](https://meta.discourse.org/u/itsbhanusharma)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2018, 2:27pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/private-message-rate-limits/88540/2 "2018-05-27T14:27:48Z")
I don’t know if it’s relevant but have you tried tinkering with `max_personal_messages_per_day` setting in admin?
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### Author:  [@nsuchy](https://meta.discourse.org/u/nsuchy)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2018, 2:28pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/private-message-rate-limits/88540/3 "2018-05-27T14:28:30Z")
I just found that - is there a way to make it unlimited or should I just set it to a very high number?
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### Author:  [@itsbhanusharma](https://meta.discourse.org/u/itsbhanusharma)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2018, 2:30pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/private-message-rate-limits/88540/4 "2018-05-27T14:30:19Z")
Try making it a crazy high number as it doesn’t say that setting 0 will remove the limit. maybe set it to 20000
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### Author:  [@nsuchy](https://meta.discourse.org/u/nsuchy)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2018, 2:31pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/private-message-rate-limits/88540/5 "2018-05-27T14:31:27Z")
I’ll try that. Like we’re using the private message system in a way similar to the way you’d use XMPP/IRC - a bunch of really small messages - while that’s probably not what the developers intended - I’m paying for the Google Cloud Servers so if it eats up resources that’s my problem 😛
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### Author:  [@itsbhanusharma](https://meta.discourse.org/u/itsbhanusharma)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2018, 2:33pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/private-message-rate-limits/88540/6 "2018-05-27T14:33:02Z")
> [@nsuchy](#):
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> that’s probably not what the developers intended
Exactly! Personal messages are more like emails. Long replies and only meaningful conversation but with added benefits of some real time update.
Why don’t you use the babble plugin for chat? it works great!
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### Author:  [@nsuchy](https://meta.discourse.org/u/nsuchy)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2018, 2:36pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/private-message-rate-limits/88540/7 "2018-05-27T14:36:30Z")
> [@itsbhanusharma](#):
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> Why don’t you use the babble plugin for chat? it works great!
I’m trying to avoid plugins - less points of failure. For example a plugin might not get updated and Discourse adds a breaking change. I’m trying to avoid that.
> [@itsbhanusharma](#):
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> Exactly! Personal messages are more like emails. Long replies and only meaningful conversation but with added benefits of some real time update.
The real time updates are awesome 😃
By the way I marked your answer as the solution - thank you 🙂
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### Author:  [@itsbhanusharma](https://meta.discourse.org/u/itsbhanusharma)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2018, 2:39pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/private-message-rate-limits/88540/8 "2018-05-27T14:39:44Z")
> [@nsuchy](#):
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> I’m trying to avoid plugins - less points of failure. For example a plugin might not get updated and Discourse adds a breaking change. I’m trying to avoid that.
Babble is well maintained. Even if something is failing, there are a lot of people using it so it gets reported and @gdpelican is super speedy at fixing such things.
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### Author:  [@JammyDodger](https://meta.discourse.org/u/JammyDodger)
#### Post date: [June 8, 2024, 12:37pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/private-message-rate-limits/88540/9 "2024-06-08T12:37:22Z")
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