# Private message time messed up
**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/private-message-time-messed-up/73906
**Category:** Support
**Created:** [2017年十一月11日 19:17 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/private-message-time-messed-up/73906 "2017-11-11T19:17:41Z")
**Posts on this page:** 7
**Page:** 2
### Author:  [@Mittineague](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Mittineague)
#### Post date: [2017年十一月12日 05:16 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/private-message-time-messed-up/73906/21 "2017-11-12T05:16:36Z")
Does it jive with this?
[https://sinfulforums.net/t/test-topic-title/141.json](https://sinfulforums.net/t/test-topic-title/141.json)
```plaintext
[{"id":526,
"name":"Lunorian","username":"lunorian",
"avatar_template":"/user_avatar/sinfulforums.net/lunorian/{size}/3_1.png",
"created_at":"2017-11-11T21:09:26.238Z",
"cooked":"\u003cp\u003etest text goes here we are just testing\u003c/p\u003e",
"post_number":1,"post_type":1,
"updated_at":"2017-11-11T21:09:26.238Z","reply_count":0,
```
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### Author:  [@schungx](https://meta.discourse.org/u/schungx)
#### Post date: [2017年十一月12日 05:31 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/private-message-time-messed-up/73906/22 "2017-11-12T05:31:51Z")
When you posted, it should be around 11pm EST (what are you doing anyway up close to midnight on Saturday night?) 🤔
That means it would have been around 4am UTC.
The database record shows that it is `created_at` is 9pm UTC, which is obviously not correct. Therefore your problem came about at the time the database record is created.
EDIT: There is a difference of 7 hours, which if you wind your browser BACKWARDS by 7hr, it brings you EXACTLY to the date line. I suspect some time zone mistake.
EDIT 2: Notice that the UTC timestamp is Nov 11, not Nov 12. Which means that it is going BACKWARDS 7 hr.
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### Author:  [@nsuchy](https://meta.discourse.org/u/nsuchy)
#### Post date: [2017年十一月12日 17:37 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/private-message-time-messed-up/73906/23 "2017-11-12T17:37:39Z")
So server time isn’t the issue, Discourse time is, where is Discourse getting the time from and how can this be corrected?
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### Author:  [@Mittineague](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Mittineague)
#### Post date: [2017年十一月12日 18:14 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/private-message-time-messed-up/73906/24 "2017-11-12T18:14:13Z")
> [@nsuchy](#):
>
> where is Discourse getting the time from
AFAIK, Discourse uses Ruby `Time`, the default is
>
Did you change that?
I’m in the Eastern timezone, and when I go to this site I see a difference of 7 hours for the UTC time
[https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone/utc](https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone/utc)
It looks like if I were to somehow pass my local time as the create time it would become “7 hours ago”
Are you posting through the UI or through the API or email?
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### Author:  [@riking](https://meta.discourse.org/u/riking)
#### Post date: [2017年十一月12日 21:05 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/private-message-time-messed-up/73906/25 "2017-11-12T21:05:13Z")
The database record is incorrect, so there’s an issue when it’s saving the record.
What do these commands return?
```plaintext
$ date
$ date -u
$ readlink /etc/localtime
```
Along with the time on your machine when running that.
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### Author:  [@nsuchy](https://meta.discourse.org/u/nsuchy)
#### Post date: [2017年十一月13日 02:51 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/private-message-time-messed-up/73906/26 "2017-11-13T02:51:52Z")
So apparently time was going away haywire due to NTP Sync and the DDoS Protection. A work-around is in place and the issue is resolved.
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [2017年十一月13日 03:28 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/private-message-time-messed-up/73906/27 "2017-11-13T03:28:45Z")
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