# Request to Join Group feature and requirement for Message/Mention rights by Everyone

**URL:** <https://meta.discourse.org/t/request-to-join-group-feature-and-requirement-for-message-mention-rights-by-everyone/55264>\
**Category:** Feature\
**Created:** [06.Январь.2017 05:30:20 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/request-to-join-group-feature-and-requirement-for-message-mention-rights-by-everyone/55264 "2017-01-06T05:30:20Z")\
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**Post date:** [06.Январь.2017 05:30:20 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/request-to-join-group-feature-and-requirement-for-message-mention-rights-by-everyone/55264/1 "2017-01-06T05:30:20Z")

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The group setting for `Allow users to send membership requests to group owners (Requires everyone to be able to mention the group)` seems a little dangerous.

We are asking users to request permission from the group owner to join a special group, but users on the site can send a PM to that entire group or start a topic and @mention the group.

Now that the PM for the request is going to the [last 5 active group owners](https://meta.discourse.org/t/improving-the-groups-page-for-1-7/53347/67), can we **remove the "message/mention requirement** or scale it back to only require `group members, moderators, and admin`?

The body of the PM for the request does include an @mention:

> I would like to apply for membership in @%{groupName}

which is nice since the owner can navigate back to the group easily from the PM, but that just requires the group to be visible to the sender, right? Also, @mentioning a group in a PM doesn’t notify the group members.

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