# Aparte e-mailadressen voor 'envelope-from' en 'reply-to' om DMARC-fouten te voorkomen

**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/separate-envelope-from-and-reply-to-email-addresses-to-avoid-dmarc-failure/295211
**Category:** Feature
**Tags:** email
**Created:** [13 februari 2024 om 14:43 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/separate-envelope-from-and-reply-to-email-addresses-to-avoid-dmarc-failure/295211 "2024-02-13T14:43:12Z")
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### Author: ![RBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@RBoy](https://meta.discourse.org/u/RBoy)
#### Post date: [16 februari 2024 om 02:34 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/separate-envelope-from-and-reply-to-email-addresses-to-avoid-dmarc-failure/295211/5 "2024-02-16T02:34:40Z")

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> [@mpalmer](#):
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> If your MTA supports a catch all, why can’t you forward replies with the same feature

Because it’s a catch all for the domain, only one email is being used for discourse.

> [@mpalmer](#):
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> The envelope from is the address that _has_ to support VERP,

Not necessarily, I’m currently using it without VERP and it’s working. My issue is that I can’t have have the user respond directly to gmail without a SPF / DMARC failure due to the way discourse sets the `envelope-from` and `reply-to` addresses. Instead I have to have the MTA forward it to gmail. If I could have it reply directly to gmail (without a DMARC/SPF failure) then I can use VERP for securing the responses but yes the VERP will be ignored for bounced email. It’s still more secure than the current implementation.

> [@mpalmer](#):
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> using gmail to relay outbound as well

That’ not an option as I [explained here](https://meta.discourse.org/t/setting-up-discourse-using-gmail-smtp-settings/291749/5). It’s only practical to use gmail it for inbound. Setting up your own direct inbound MX when you already have a MX from your hosting provider can be challenging for the uninitiated. Direct gmail replies is far easier and less error prone.

Maybe I’m missing something in your line of thought. I can only see upsides to separating the `envelope-from` and `reply-to` addresses, it supports more diverse ecosystems and it’s more secure while helping to avoid SPF/MARC failures.

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