# Dovrebbe essere più ovvio che le etichette sono etichette? **URL:** \ **Category:** UX\ **Created:** [5 Marzo 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/should-it-be-more-obvious-that-tags-are-tags/110759 "2019-03-05T16:59:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jtbayly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/jtbayly/32/119510_2.png) [@jtbayly](https://meta.discourse.org/u/jtbayly)\ **Post date:** [5 Marzo 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/should-it-be-more-obvious-that-tags-are-tags/110759/1 "2019-03-05T16:59:31Z")
It’s a fine line between relying on graphics vs explicitly labeling things. In general Discourse needs to provide some more help in my opinion in making on-ramps for early and non-technical users. Perhaps this isn’t that place, but I think it is. I really couldn’t tell you without looking what the visual distinctive of a tag was. In fact, it appears to be the _lack_ of any distinctive that is the one distinctive of tags. In a context like this, that reasoning by a process of elimination is expecting quite a lot of users. Edited to add: regardless this is a nice change to search. ---
**Author:** ![awesomerobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/awesomerobot/32/142900_2.png) [@awesomerobot](https://meta.discourse.org/u/awesomerobot)\ **Post date:** [5 Marzo 2019, 5:16pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/should-it-be-more-obvious-that-tags-are-tags/110759/2 "2019-03-05T17:16:09Z")
Sposto questa discussione in un nuovo argomento perché è un po’ una digressione… Non sono d’accordo con questo quando si tratta dei tag. Tutto il resto ha un qualche tipo di indicazione di cosa sia. Sono un sostenitore della struttura degli hashtag, che penso venga utilizzata da quasi tutte le reti sociali oggi, e credo che sarebbe un modo ovvio per gestirli… (oltre al fatto che possiamo già usare #personalizzazione:tema nei post) ![43%20PM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/3X/5/b/5b1e61becd9da4aad9ec16112ea8838dd9645039.png) Gli hashtag sono un po’ rumorosi in un elenco… ma forse basterebbe metterli solo sul primo? ![15%20PM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/3X/4/e/4e27f7223fdf43987b510b1a82943eb561c047ed.png) ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/codinghorror/32/110067_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [5 Marzo 2019, 5:19pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/should-it-be-more-obvious-that-tags-are-tags/110759/3 "2019-03-05T17:19:51Z")
The problem is that @sam, wrongly IMO, insisted that there be dividers between every single section. - Tags and categories are strongly related and should be visually grouped together. - Users and groups are strongly related and should be visually grouped together. As for the concern in the first post, I do not feel it is warranted at all. ---
**Author:** ![awesomerobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/awesomerobot/32/142900_2.png) [@awesomerobot](https://meta.discourse.org/u/awesomerobot)\ **Post date:** [5 Marzo 2019, 5:34pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/should-it-be-more-obvious-that-tags-are-tags/110759/4 "2019-03-05T17:34:25Z")
One reason for the separation at the moment is that if you click `more...` for users groups won’t be there. We don’t have a consolidated search for groups and users outside of this dropdown yet. ---
**Author:** ![sam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/sam/32/102149_2.png) [@sam](https://meta.discourse.org/u/sam)\ **Post date:** [5 Marzo 2019, 8:31pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/should-it-be-more-obvious-that-tags-are-tags/110759/5 "2019-03-05T20:31:58Z")
Isn’t this a “defaults” discussion, asking to shift to tag bullet or box per site setting? Personally I am super on the fence here, torn between too much noise, and not obvious enough. @awesomerobot maybe add another tag style to the salad that captures the balance better, not sure if this is solvable to be honest ---
**Author:** ![bts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/bts/32/184556_2.png) [@bts](https://meta.discourse.org/u/bts)\ **Post date:** [5 Marzo 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/should-it-be-more-obvious-that-tags-are-tags/110759/6 "2019-03-05T20:51:03Z")
I like the suggestion of hashtags — simple, and pretty universal meaning. May be slightly confusing that in the composer `#` works as convention for referencing both tags and categories. One thing that might mitigate that would be keeping the `#` shortcut to search/select both categories and tags in the composer, but styling categories differently in the preview and post… But yeah I think seeing the `#` in search results makes it a bit clear those are tags w/o having to label them. Also for short ones on the same line, makes it somewhat more clear they’re separate entities vs. e.g. a single two word phrase. ![17%20PM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/3X/f/3/f34faae60d8ef6df4751fd2c0d57a82f1fd33988.png) ![50%20PM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/3X/c/8/c86c26426c711b219cbd406091beb53685825285.png) One other tiny thing, looks like the font size in search results is currently slightly larger for tags vs. categories? Categories feel like they should be bigger/more important, generally, idk if that balance could be tweaked a bit. In general this looks great though. ---
**Author:** ![Falco](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/falco/32/179432_2.png) [@Falco](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Falco)\ **Post date:** [5 Marzo 2019, 8:53pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/should-it-be-more-obvious-that-tags-are-tags/110759/7 "2019-03-05T20:53:36Z")
I did add the hashtags to tags in one of my previous instances, it’s pretty easy using CSS `before` with `content`. People like it. ---
**Author:** ![awesomerobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/awesomerobot/32/142900_2.png) [@awesomerobot](https://meta.discourse.org/u/awesomerobot)\ **Post date:** [5 Marzo 2019, 8:57pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/should-it-be-more-obvious-that-tags-are-tags/110759/8 "2019-03-05T20:57:55Z")
> [@sam](#): > > maybe add another tag style to the salad that captures the balance better, not sure if this is solvable to be honest I totally forgot that we had those tag styles… I wonder how often they’re changed… > [@Falco](#): > > I did add the hashtags to tags in one of my previous instances I’ve done this at least once in a theme too… I think I’ll add it as an optional built-in style, it’s fairly simple. ---
**Author:** ![tomtjes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/tomtjes/32/131271_2.png) [@tomtjes](https://meta.discourse.org/u/tomtjes)\ **Post date:** [5 Marzo 2019, 9:16pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/should-it-be-more-obvious-that-tags-are-tags/110759/9 "2019-03-05T21:16:19Z")
> [@bts](#): > > May be slightly confusing that in the composer `#` works as convention for referencing both tags and categories. That has definitely confused me and I don’t think it’s intuitive to use the `#` for both. Controversial idea: in the composer `/` should be used to refer to categories. Too nerdy? ---
**Author:** ![Stephen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/stephen/32/95011_2.png) [@Stephen](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Stephen)\ **Post date:** [5 Marzo 2019, 9:26pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/should-it-be-more-obvious-that-tags-are-tags/110759/10 "2019-03-05T21:26:45Z")
We use @ for both groups and individuals, as long as no collision can occur between tags and categories it’s probably good that they share the #. It would be worse to need to remember whether something was a tag or a category, when in many cases they’re almost interchangeable.