# Should losing group membership unlock trust level?
**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/should-losing-group-membership-unlock-trust-level/66025
**Category:** Feature
**Created:** [July 12, 2017, 12:15am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/should-losing-group-membership-unlock-trust-level/66025 "2017-07-12T00:15:32Z")
**Posts on this page:** 7
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### Author:  [@Falco](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Falco)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2017, 12:15am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/should-losing-group-membership-unlock-trust-level/66025/1 "2017-07-12T00:15:32Z")
Continuing the discussion from [Discourse Patreon Integration](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-patreon-integration/44366/133):
I think this should be handled in core, since it’s just default group membership behavior.
However it’s very tricky, because for example:
1. User is TL1
2. User get into Patreon, patron group has been configured to give TL3 in this site
3. User exits Patreon, plugin removes from group
4. User still TL3 because trust level is locked automatically.
5. Admin unlocks trust level, user becomes TL2. (Not TL1, you can’t get demoted from TL2 without locked TL).
Should Discourse unlock trust level on group exit by default? As an option? Only if group TL is active? What if it was but isn’t anymore?
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2017, 1:17am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/should-losing-group-membership-unlock-trust-level/66025/2 "2017-07-12T01:17:52Z")
What is the problem? Seems like simply unlocking trust level should work. Does the user need to be forced down to TL0 or something?
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### Author:  [@Falco](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Falco)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2017, 1:56am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/should-losing-group-membership-unlock-trust-level/66025/3 "2017-07-12T01:56:20Z")
The user could had his trust level locked by other reasons, like:
- Manual lock
- Membership in another group
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2017, 3:04am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/should-losing-group-membership-unlock-trust-level/66025/4 "2017-07-12T03:04:17Z")
This seems… unlikely?
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### Author:  [@Vocino](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Vocino)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2017, 2:26pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/should-losing-group-membership-unlock-trust-level/66025/5 "2017-07-12T14:26:21Z")
Manually managing the unlocking of trust levels is impossible when coupled with something like the Patreon plugin. Users fall off, their cards get declined, etc.
That’s my current use case for bringing this up anyway, there may be others.
It seems like trust level should be locked _while_ you have membership to a group.
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### Author:  [@Falco](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Falco)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2017, 3:22am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/should-losing-group-membership-unlock-trust-level/66025/6 "2017-12-09T03:22:20Z")
> [@Should I disclose the numbers one should reach to get granted the highest trust level?](https://meta.discourse.org/t/should-i-disclose-the-numbers-one-should-reach-to-get-granted-the-highest-trust-level/75686/9):
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> Yes this has been changed (although not for old records, because they were locked previously.) We now track “locked in group” separately from “locked manually”. When you leave the group you are put back to what your trust level would have been.
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### Author:  [@Falco](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Falco)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2017, 3:22am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/should-losing-group-membership-unlock-trust-level/66025/7 "2017-12-09T03:22:23Z")