# Should the install guide tell people to run apt update & apt upgrade first?

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**Category:** Self-hosting\
**Created:** [October 26, 2021, 9:59am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/should-the-install-guide-tell-people-to-run-apt-update-apt-upgrade-first/207106 "2021-10-26T09:59:28Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 9:59am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/should-the-install-guide-tell-people-to-run-apt-update-apt-upgrade-first/207106/1 "2021-10-26T09:59:28Z")

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Continuing the discussion from [Problem with self hosted instance](https://meta.discourse.org/t/problem-with-self-hosted-instance/207088):

I feel like I have seen this too many times where people follow the install guide and come back and say that their install did not work.

IMHO, I think by adding a section into the guide before the install, to run apt update & apt upgrade, would sort out this issue before it is a problem.

It won’t harm anything by running it, but it will help having the updated software before creating the docker and etc

Anyone have any comments on this ?

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