# Should the install guide tell people to run apt update & apt upgrade first?

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**Created:** [October 26, 2021, 9:59am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/should-the-install-guide-tell-people-to-run-apt-update-apt-upgrade-first/207106 "2021-10-26T09:59:28Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 3:15pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/should-the-install-guide-tell-people-to-run-apt-update-apt-upgrade-first/207106/12 "2021-10-27T15:15:52Z")

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> [@IAmGav](#):
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> I feel like I have seen this too many times where people follow the install guide and come back and say that their install did not work.
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> IMHO, I think by adding a section into the guide before the install, to run apt update & apt upgrade, would sort out this issue before it is a problem.

This is a _non sequitur_.

Can you give me any reproducible problem that this extra step realistically solve?

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