# Should the install guide tell people to run apt update & apt upgrade first?

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**Created:** [October 26, 2021, 9:59am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/should-the-install-guide-tell-people-to-run-apt-update-apt-upgrade-first/207106 "2021-10-26T09:59:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![JammyDodger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/jammydodger/32/254611_2.png) [@JammyDodger](https://meta.discourse.org/u/JammyDodger)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 9:38am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/should-the-install-guide-tell-people-to-run-apt-update-apt-upgrade-first/207106/13 "2021-10-28T09:38:26Z")

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Slightly adjacent, but I found the excitement of actually getting the ‘Congratulations, you installed discourse! 🎉’ screen made me forget about the rest of the guide. 🙂 I did remember the Post-Install Maintenance eventually, but perhaps there’s space for a ‘Prepare your Cloud Server (optional)’ section inbetween “Access Your Cloud Server” and “Install Discourse”? That could include the dpkg-reconfigure -plow unattended-upgrades, apt install libpam-cracklib, and fail2ban info, and maybe the apt-get update/upgrade?

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