# Should the install guide tell people to run apt update & apt upgrade first?

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**Created:** [October 26, 2021, 9:59am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/should-the-install-guide-tell-people-to-run-apt-update-apt-upgrade-first/207106 "2021-10-26T09:59:28Z")\
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> [@Falco](#):
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> Can you give me any reproducible problem that this extra step realistically solve?

I doubt it.

> [@JammyDodger](#):
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> perhaps there’s space for a ‘Prepare your Cloud Server

That’s not a bad idea. It might just point to a couple such guides that someone else is already maintaining.

EDIT: And finding one that has just 5 things to do and not 25 looks like it’ll be a challenge.

I think mostly this:

- configure apt for automatic upgrades and reboots
- installed fail2ban (though without password access for ssh, I’m not sure how necessary it is)
- see that ssh does not allow password logins (this is much easier now that Digital Ocean has a proper shell console that doesn’t require a password)

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