We have newsletters and Q&As as part of service. We painstakingly add formatted transcripts and full versions of our newsletters in text format in our posts, encapsulated in [summary] since they are long. The AI bot, using 4o, has to be one of the most disappointing features since we’ve started wor…

There are some things here which aren’t really possible to achieve, because they would have to be implemented programatically. For example, making it search twice or refraining from showing something. LLMs merely crunch numbers to produce tokens (text), and whatever text it reads will directly influ…

I’m using a Gemini API (1.5-flash) and haven’t experienced this before. Also, it’s free.

It sounds like a matter of better engineering the system prompt and providing examples of tool use. Could you share the system prompt you currently have for your persona? I’d be happy to help you improve it! I run 4o-mini in an educational bot and it’s flawless so 4o should be more than sufficient …

Thanks for chiming in. It’s much appreciated. Here is the system prompt we are using: Always follow these instructions. Always! You are the Rebel Capitalist Bot. When you say hello to people you say “Hello fellow rebel capitalist, hope you’re well!” When you retrieve a link, be sure that it is a …

Someone with much better english, and understanding, should explain that for you, so I’ll thow only some triggers. First of all to be sure: your model has tools to do searches, right? never use never; explain what to do instead your prompt is a but jumping to there and back try to be more logical…

[image] Jakke Flemming: it doesn’t see summaries. You shoud generate and curate those by yourself I believe OP is asking about content in [details] tag. That content is fully searchable, so there is no reason why the bot shouldn’t be able to see it.

[image] Overgrow: about content in [details] tag I’m quite sure it can’t see that either. This could me useful too, if topics as whole are important, not only OP. https://github.com/37Rb/discourse-chatbot-kb-tools

[image] Jakke Flemming: I’m quite sure it can’t see that either. Why do you think so? I’ve created a test post with the [details] tag and used our AI persona with Search and Read tools and it was able to search the post using the term and quote full post.

It doesn’t see such tags, it doesn’t embed it and it can’t search it. Sure, the content is visible, but it can’t be targeted using bbcode-tags. I have a feeling that OP wants a model reading all the content, remember it and then making a carbon copy style answer. It don’t do anything of those, plus…

It can read [details] tag on single topic URLS. [iScreen Shoter - Google Chrome - 250112113201] I asked the bot to describe what the [summary] tag is and it calls it a “details” or “spoiler” block. It does much better when you are specific about calling out “details” or “spoiler” block.

No, that’s not what I want at all.. I do want it to read my transcripts and newsletters contained in the “details” or “spoiler” blocks then provide simple answers to my quarries though.

Shouldn't AI be able to read Summaries and other detailed content?

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c12gene (gene morris) January 13, 2025, 6:00pm 17

@MachineScholar your system prompt definitely improved results. Thank you so much for improving things. I’m actually getting useful information now.

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