# Some topics that are read, inluding one authored by me, are listed as unread by me
**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/some-topics-that-are-read-inluding-one-authored-by-me-are-listed-as-unread-by-me/62623
**Category:** UX
**Created:** [13 mei 2017 om 00:19 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/some-topics-that-are-read-inluding-one-authored-by-me-are-listed-as-unread-by-me/62623 "2017-05-13T00:19:33Z")
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### Author:  [@grahamperrin](https://meta.discourse.org/u/grahamperrin)
#### Post date: [13 mei 2017 om 00:19 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/some-topics-that-are-read-inluding-one-authored-by-me-are-listed-as-unread-by-me/62623/1 "2017-05-13T00:19:34Z")
In views such as `/latest` I have two topics that inexplicably never become greyed out, no matter how many times I read each one carefully in its entirety:
The first example (uppermost in the screenshot above):
– just two posts, both by me. Why is the topic listed as if I have not read it? Any idea?
TIA
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [13 mei 2017 om 00:23 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/some-topics-that-are-read-inluding-one-authored-by-me-are-listed-as-unread-by-me/62623/2 "2017-05-13T00:23:51Z")
Deleted posts at the bottom cause this, and have for a long time.
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### Author:  [@grahamperrin](https://meta.discourse.org/u/grahamperrin)
#### Post date: [13 mei 2017 om 00:24 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/some-topics-that-are-read-inluding-one-authored-by-me-are-listed-as-unread-by-me/62623/3 "2017-05-13T00:24:37Z")
Thanks. In the example above – second shot – I’m as sure as I can be (without becoming an administrator) that there was no third post, no deletion.
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [13 mei 2017 om 00:27 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/some-topics-that-are-read-inluding-one-authored-by-me-are-listed-as-unread-by-me/62623/4 "2017-05-13T00:27:34Z")
Are you an admin on the site, so you know for sure there’s no deleted post there at the bottom?
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### Author:  [@grahamperrin](https://meta.discourse.org/u/grahamperrin)
#### Post date: [13 mei 2017 om 00:37 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/some-topics-that-are-read-inluding-one-authored-by-me-are-listed-as-unread-by-me/62623/5 "2017-05-13T00:37:13Z")
It’s the one and only topic that I published, nineteen hours ago, before retiring (yesterday) from administration. Previously in a private category (either our _Staff_ area or _Private lounge_):
More than a month old, I have no recollection of contention – as far as I recall, zero response to the topic (neither a like, nor a dislike, in the weeks when it was available to local staff). I’ll be extremely surprised if any post was added then deleted. @simonv3 please, can you take a look? Thanks.
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### Author:  [@simonv3](https://meta.discourse.org/u/simonv3)
#### Post date: [13 mei 2017 om 00:57 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/some-topics-that-are-read-inluding-one-authored-by-me-are-listed-as-unread-by-me/62623/6 "2017-05-13T00:57:35Z")
I’m not an admin on the site, so I can’t see if there are deleted posts (I’m assuming I could see those if I was an admin). Maybe ask Sean? I’m not sure if he’s on here, but you can probably ping him on the OSD forum to ask.
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### Author:  [@grahamperrin](https://meta.discourse.org/u/grahamperrin)
#### Post date: [13 mei 2017 om 12:09 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/some-topics-that-are-read-inluding-one-authored-by-me-are-listed-as-unread-by-me/62623/8 "2017-05-13T12:09:14Z")
[Something hidden](https://discourse.opensourcedesign.net/t/trust-levels-and-visibility/153/4?u=grahamperrin), apparently, in one case.
Would that explain it?
From the POV of a basic user, it’s a little frustrating to have listings that do not go grey when expected – I _do_ rely heavily, frequently,at a variety of forums, on the difference between black and grey.
(Just a _little_ frustrating. Not enough to be an annoyance, I can learn to remember to ignore affected topics.)
TIA