# SSL/TLS for port 465 (Net::ReadTimeout) - undocumented solution

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**Created:** [July 5, 2023, 11:20am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/ssl-tls-for-port-465-net-readtimeout-undocumented-solution/270632 "2023-07-05T11:20:23Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 11:30am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/ssl-tls-for-port-465-net-readtimeout-undocumented-solution/270632/2 "2023-07-05T11:30:26Z")

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There are two ways of doing SSL with SMTP.

1. Connect normally, usually over port 25 or 587, and issue a STARTTLS command. This is what `DISCOURSE_SMTP_ENABLE_START_TLS` is for.
2. Connect with SSL from the start, usually over port 465. This is what `DISCOURSE_SMTP_FORCE_TLS` is for.

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