# Suspending or Deleting Users Necessary?
**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/suspending-or-deleting-users-necessary/91623
**Category:** Support
**Tags:** patreon
**Created:** [July 5, 2018, 10:47am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/suspending-or-deleting-users-necessary/91623 "2018-07-05T10:47:10Z")
**Posts on this page:** 11
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### Author:  [@caduspa](https://meta.discourse.org/u/caduspa)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2018, 10:47am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/suspending-or-deleting-users-necessary/91623/1 "2018-07-05T10:47:10Z")
When a patron’s pledge is declined or deleted, is their access to patron-only discourse forum automatically suspended or do I as admin need to do that? And if suspended or deleted, is the user sent a message about the details of the suspension or deletion?
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### Author:  [@dax](https://meta.discourse.org/u/dax)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2018, 11:00am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/suspending-or-deleting-users-necessary/91623/2 "2018-07-05T11:00:22Z")
> [@caduspa](#):
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> is their access to patron-only discourse forum automatically suspended or do I as admin need to do that?
The user is removed from the Patreon group and therefore no longer has access to the forum (if the forum is only for Patrons).
> [@caduspa](#):
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> is the user sent a message about the details of the suspension or deletion?
I really do not think so.
The best thing for me is to have a public category with permissions to `@everyone` just to `reply and see` (but not create) topics. In that category, you will write only one topic (you decide how to set it) and your non-patrons users who will access the site will only see that topic (and will have the opportunity to reply in case of problems or to ask questions).
Your patrons belonging to the patreon group will have access to the real contents of the site.
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### Author:  [@caduspa](https://meta.discourse.org/u/caduspa)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2018, 1:42pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/suspending-or-deleting-users-necessary/91623/3 "2018-07-05T13:42:01Z")
Thanks. So to be clear, the user will have access and I don’t need to take any measures. Also, are they notified or do they just find they can’t log in? Thank so much for your help.
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### Author:  [@dax](https://meta.discourse.org/u/dax)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2018, 1:50pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/suspending-or-deleting-users-necessary/91623/4 "2018-07-05T13:50:52Z")
> [@caduspa](#):
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> the user will have access and I don’t need to take any measures
Users are synced to the group/s (added and removed) automatically, so you do not have to do anything.
> [@caduspa](#):
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> are they notified or do they just find they can’t log in?
If your site only logs in with Patreon, users who are no longer Patrons will simply no longer be able to log in (no warning or notification).
What I wrote before was a workaround for notifications.
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### Author:  [@caduspa](https://meta.discourse.org/u/caduspa)
#### Post date: [September 15, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/suspending-or-deleting-users-necessary/91623/6 "2018-09-15T19:00:40Z")
Following up on this topic, it appears a patron who deleted their pledge now has access to the patron-only Discourse forum. She posted today after having deleted her pledge July 24th and her profile on Patreon confirms no payments since July. Any ideas how she may be accessing as a non-patron?`
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [September 15, 2018, 9:28pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/suspending-or-deleting-users-necessary/91623/7 "2018-09-15T21:28:49Z")
Is your discourse and the patreon plugin fully up to date?
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### Author:  [@caduspa](https://meta.discourse.org/u/caduspa)
#### Post date: [September 15, 2018, 10:34pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/suspending-or-deleting-users-necessary/91623/8 "2018-09-15T22:34:44Z")
Thanks for responding. Yes, as far as I know. Plus, kudos on the super eye-catching Avatar!
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### Author:  [@riking](https://meta.discourse.org/u/riking)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2018, 4:26pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/suspending-or-deleting-users-necessary/91623/9 "2018-09-16T16:26:46Z")
How is your forum set up - is the entire thing restricted to patrons, or do you have restrictions set on every category?
It’s only fully automatic for the second case; for the first case you need to forcibly log out their browsers.
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### Author:  [@vinothkannans](https://meta.discourse.org/u/vinothkannans)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2018, 6:37pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/suspending-or-deleting-users-necessary/91623/10 "2018-09-16T18:37:28Z")
If your website is login protected by Patreon but the categories are not restricted then non pledging Patrons can also access its content. Category restriction is very important to keep Patron only contents as exclusive. You should only add “Patrons” group (and other allowed groups if any) in restricted categories.
Optionally you can create an unrestricted category for non-pledging Patrons.
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### Author:  [@caduspa](https://meta.discourse.org/u/caduspa)
#### Post date: [September 18, 2018, 1:53pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/suspending-or-deleting-users-necessary/91623/11 "2018-09-18T13:53:20Z")
That was exactly the issue. Thanks for the information and I’ve now edited all categories’ security settings to ‘patrons’. Thanks for the help!
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### Author:  [@vinothkannans](https://meta.discourse.org/u/vinothkannans)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2018, 1:56pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/suspending-or-deleting-users-necessary/91623/12 "2018-09-20T13:56:16Z")
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