# Tag that belong to tag group not visible for the users

**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/tag-that-belong-to-tag-group-not-visible-for-the-users/333816
**Category:** Bug
**Tags:** tag-groups, fixed
**Created:** [October 31, 2024, 11:53am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/tag-that-belong-to-tag-group-not-visible-for-the-users/333816 "2024-10-31T11:53:00Z")
**Posts on this page:** 4
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### Author: ![brunall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c68b51/32.png) [@brunall](https://meta.discourse.org/u/brunall)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2024, 11:53am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/tag-that-belong-to-tag-group-not-visible-for-the-users/333816/1 "2024-10-31T11:53:00Z")

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Hi!

We have a tag in our forum that belongs to a tag group lets call it #private\_tag. We have a restriction there that “Tags are visible to everyone, but only the following groups can use them”.

However, the tag is not visible for users in the “All tags” lists. Not even for those included in the groups that can use the tag. Additionally, when users included in those groups have applied a filter for any category and that #private\_tag, they cannot create new post.  
 ![The image is of a yellow banner with the words "New Topic" on it. (Captioned by AI)](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/4X/d/1/c/d1c58d09026932384f772b84edab7042254f33d3.png)  
In the information they see the message that they don’t have permission to post in the category, even though they do.

So, is this by design or something that should be fixed?

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### Author: ![Moin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/moin/32/554653_2.png) [@Moin](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Moin)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2024, 12:22pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/tag-that-belong-to-tag-group-not-visible-for-the-users/333816/2 "2024-11-16T12:22:11Z")

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> [@brunall](#):
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> However, the tag is not visible for users in the “All tags” lists. Not even for those included in the groups that can use the tag

How many topics are tagged with this tag?

> [@brunall](#):
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> In the information they see the message that they don’t have permission to post in the category, even though they do

I know it always say “category” even if the tag is the reason

> [@Wrong reason for not allowing topic creation](https://meta.discourse.org/t/wrong-reason-for-not-allowing-topic-creation/286132):
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> When you filter using a tag you’re not permitted to use, the ‘New Topic’ button is disabled. The information_source shows the message “You’re not allowed to create topics in this category”. However, the issue doesn’t lie with the category, but with the tag instead. This might seem obvious if you’re only filtering by the tag. However, if you filter using both a tag and a category (for example, #ux and #completed ([link](https://meta.discourse.org/tags/c/ux/9/completed)) ), it can give the impression that you’re not allowed to post topics in the #ux …

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### Author: ![brunall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c68b51/32.png) [@brunall](https://meta.discourse.org/u/brunall)
#### Post date: [December 4, 2024, 11:43am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/tag-that-belong-to-tag-group-not-visible-for-the-users/333816/3 "2024-12-04T11:43:16Z")

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> [@Moin](#):
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> How many topics are tagged with this tag?

There were 7 topics with this tag by the time the issue was reported.

After I’ve changed to group the categories, I don’t see this issue anymore.

> [@Moin](#):
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> I know it always say “category” even if the tag is the reason

Ahaa, I get it now.

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### Author: ![j.jaffeux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/j.jaffeux/32/60297_2.png) [@j.jaffeux](https://meta.discourse.org/u/j.jaffeux)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2024, 1:26pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/tag-that-belong-to-tag-group-not-visible-for-the-users/333816/4 "2024-12-09T13:26:36Z")

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