# TL4 without edit-all-posts privilege?
**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/tl4-without-edit-all-posts-privilege/67983
**Category:** Feature
**Tags:** completed
**Created:** [August 13, 2017, 9:12pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/tl4-without-edit-all-posts-privilege/67983 "2017-08-13T21:12:15Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
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### Author:  [@ChrisBeach](https://meta.discourse.org/u/ChrisBeach)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2017, 9:12pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/tl4-without-edit-all-posts-privilege/67983/1 "2017-08-13T21:12:16Z")
I’d like to promote a few trusted members to TL4, but our existing mod team is concerned about giving edit-all-posts privileges to non-staff members.
In fact, one of the candidates for TL4 was [reluctant](https://se23.life/t/tagging-topics/4477/8?u=chrisbeach) to accept it because of the edit-all-posts privilege.
It’d be great if a site setting could be added so I can disable edit-all-posts privilege for TL4 members.
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2017, 9:13pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/tl4-without-edit-all-posts-privilege/67983/2 "2017-08-13T21:13:17Z")
Why? Full edit revisions are always stored and by default users get notified of any edits on their posts.
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### Author:  [@ChrisBeach](https://meta.discourse.org/u/ChrisBeach)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2017, 9:17pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/tl4-without-edit-all-posts-privilege/67983/3 "2017-08-13T21:17:22Z")
Yes - the auditing is there (although no edit log is visible to the mod team - we’d have to click on individual posts to find out if they’d been edited by a TL4).
This auditing is helpful, but would not prevent a bad edit happening, which may come as a shock to members unfamiliar with the trust level system. People are very sensitive about having their posts edited. Even by known members of the team, let alone seemingly random forum members.
It would be rare, but a bad edit might feel like a “breach of trust” to a member, and I’m careful to avoid this.
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### Author:  [@pfaffman](https://meta.discourse.org/u/pfaffman)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2017, 10:29pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/tl4-without-edit-all-posts-privilege/67983/4 "2017-08-13T22:29:21Z")
What do you want tl4 to be able to do?
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### Author:  [@ChrisBeach](https://meta.discourse.org/u/ChrisBeach)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2017, 10:35pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/tl4-without-edit-all-posts-privilege/67983/5 "2017-08-13T22:35:12Z")
Split/merge, tagging and closing topics would all be useful.
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### Author:  [@pfaffman](https://meta.discourse.org/u/pfaffman)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2017, 4:37pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/tl4-without-edit-all-posts-privilege/67983/6 "2017-08-15T16:37:09Z")
I’ve seen concerns like this before. My gut is “just tell the TL4 people not to edit stuff,” but that’s not good enough for some people.
At some point it may make sense to have site settings that define what TL4 is. Until then, from my naive perspective, it seems like a plugin that would turn off editing for TL4 would be pretty trivial, right?
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### Author:  [@Moin](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Moin)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2024, 5:54pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/tl4-without-edit-all-posts-privilege/67983/7 "2024-09-28T17:54:40Z")
In [https://github.com/discourse/discourse/pull/21493](https://github.com/discourse/discourse/pull/21493), the `edit all post groups` setting was added. You can remove the trust level 4 group from the setting to prevent TL4 from editing other users’ posts.
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### Author:  [@Lilly](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Lilly)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2024, 6:12pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/tl4-without-edit-all-posts-privilege/67983/8 "2024-09-28T18:12:28Z")