# Topic closed without system record

**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/topic-closed-without-system-record/196813
**Category:** Bug
**Created:** [July 12, 2021, 2:00am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/topic-closed-without-system-record/196813 "2021-07-12T02:00:42Z")
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### Author: ![Fabby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/fabby/32/170928_2.png) [@Fabby](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Fabby)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2021, 7:40pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/topic-closed-without-system-record/196813/3 "2021-08-07T19:40:14Z")

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Yup, same thing happening over on the [Manjaro forum](https://forum.manjaro.org).

### Relevant data:

- Installed: 2.8.0.beta4: ( [00820f0fad](https://github.com/discourse/discourse/commits/00820f0fad94c69809d6bcc1904ecffcadac1d25) )
- Topic closed but no Mod logs about how it was closed.
- Mods can reopen closed posts (or most of the time: delete them as the user started a new one)
- Seems to be happening to TL0 users only.

@sam —^  
I can give you links to exact examples over on the Manjaro forum if that would be helpful?

My apologies for pinging you directly, but as this looks like a serious bug and I only know you and codehorror, and I’d rather ~~be kicked in the 🌰 by you than him~~ _bother you than him…_😱 🙇‍♂️

**Plug-ins Installed:**

| Name | Version | Enabled? |
| --- | --- | --- |
| discourse-auto-deactivate | 0.0.1 | Y |
| discourse-chat-integration | 0.1 | Y |
| discourse-fingerprint | 2 | Y |
| discourse-push-notifications | 0.3.0 | Y |
| discourse-solved | 0.1 | Y |
| discourse-user-notes | 0.0.2 | Y |
| discourse-stopforumspam | 1.0.1 | Y |
| docker\_manager Docker | 0.1 | Y |
| procourse-installer | 0.1 | Y |
| retort Reactions plugin for Discourse | 1.2.3 | Y |
| styleguide | 0.2 | N |

⚠ _ **In the meantime, we’ve activated unlimited edits on first posts, and are monitoring the issue closely!** _

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