# Topics not being muted using 'default categories muted'

**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/topics-not-being-muted-using-default-categories-muted/277885
**Category:** Support
**Created:** [September 5, 2023, 12:01am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/topics-not-being-muted-using-default-categories-muted/277885 "2023-09-05T00:01:58Z")
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### Author: ![fbpbdmin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/fbpbdmin/32/300893_2.png) [@fbpbdmin](https://meta.discourse.org/u/fbpbdmin)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2023, 12:01am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/topics-not-being-muted-using-default-categories-muted/277885/1 "2023-09-05T00:01:58Z")

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> [@New Interface to Hide Category from Latest?](https://meta.discourse.org/t/new-interface-to-hide-category-from-latest/148485/8):
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> The setting is called `default categories muted` in your admin settings. Once configured it will offer to apply the change to all existing users.

tried this, seems it does not work as the setting name implies

for a category added to “default categories muted”,  
if there is a new post in a muted category, it still be listed in the latest list…  
is this expected ? thanks…

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### Author: ![Stephen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/stephen/32/95011_2.png) [@Stephen](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Stephen)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2023, 12:05am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/topics-not-being-muted-using-default-categories-muted/277885/2 "2023-09-05T00:05:37Z")

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How did you respond to this prompt after setting a default muted category?

 ![dcm](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/4X/6/5/e/65e69d4d81482d837fda129c3f29313a10f0d214.png)

If you don’t hit Yes then it will only change users created after making the change.

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### Author: ![fbpbdmin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/fbpbdmin/32/300893_2.png) [@fbpbdmin](https://meta.discourse.org/u/fbpbdmin)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2023, 12:13am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/topics-not-being-muted-using-default-categories-muted/277885/3 "2023-09-05T00:13:06Z")

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hmm,

- I added my test category to this list, clicked yes for this dialog.
- then add a new post in the test category, it shows as the first one in the latest list

brw, this test category is a private one, it is only visible for several accounts used for testing functions…  
tried with a regular open category, same behavior.  
we are on hosted plan, latest(?)

thanks

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### Author: ![Moin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/moin/32/554653_2.png) [@Moin](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Moin)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2023, 1:15am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/topics-not-being-muted-using-default-categories-muted/277885/4 "2023-09-05T01:15:31Z")

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Maybe you are watching or tracking the topic? The status of the topic does overwrite the status of the category.

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### Author: ![fbpbdmin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/fbpbdmin/32/300893_2.png) [@fbpbdmin](https://meta.discourse.org/u/fbpbdmin)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2023, 2:05am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/topics-not-being-muted-using-default-categories-muted/277885/5 "2023-09-05T02:05:08Z")

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- added a category to “default categories muted”  
basically, any posts in that category still shows in the latest list,

in user’s personal preference,

- if add a public category to the muted list, all topics from that category will be removed from the latest list
- if add a private category to the muted list, the topics still be listed in the latest.

thanks

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### Author: ![Canapin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/canapin/32/119591_2.png) [@Canapin](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Canapin)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2023, 7:03am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/topics-not-being-muted-using-default-categories-muted/277885/6 "2023-09-05T07:03:06Z")

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> [@fbpbdmin](#):
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> both are in the group that could see this private category

Can you elaborate on this? Does that mean that the category’s security settings are set at least to “this group” → “can read”?

My experience is:

- The category 3 is muted by default for everyone

- The category 3 view is restricted to the group G

- User A belongs to group G, and category 3 is muted

- A new topic is created in category 3.

- User A doesn’t see the new topic in /latest.

Which is expected.

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### Author: ![fbpbdmin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/fbpbdmin/32/300893_2.png) [@fbpbdmin](https://meta.discourse.org/u/fbpbdmin)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/topics-not-being-muted-using-default-categories-muted/277885/7 "2023-09-05T16:34:02Z")

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> [@Canapin](#):
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> Can you elaborate on this?

updated the reproducible steps above.
