# Trust level 4 users cannot set topic timers anymore
**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-4-users-cannot-set-topic-timers-anymore/78638
**Category:** Bug
**Tags:** topic-timers
**Created:** [1월 22, 2018, 9:55오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-4-users-cannot-set-topic-timers-anymore/78638 "2018-01-22T09:55:26Z")
**Posts on this page:** 15
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### Author:  [@rizka](https://meta.discourse.org/u/rizka)
#### Post date: [1월 22, 2018, 9:55오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-4-users-cannot-set-topic-timers-anymore/78638/1 "2018-01-22T09:55:26Z")
When we upgraded to 1.9 the trust level 4 users seem to have lost their ability to set timers for topics. So they cannot auto-close topics or close them temporarily. They can close them in a regular manner, though.
This must be a bug or a regression. It cannot be intentional, right?
(We are on 1.9.1)
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [1월 22, 2018, 10:03오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-4-users-cannot-set-topic-timers-anymore/78638/2 "2018-01-22T10:03:50Z")
Possibly, what do you think @tgxworld?
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### Author:  [@jomaxro](https://meta.discourse.org/u/jomaxro)
#### Post date: [1월 22, 2018, 3:55오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-4-users-cannot-set-topic-timers-anymore/78638/4 "2018-01-22T15:55:56Z")
Topic timers are staff only at the moment: see [Scheduling topics for future publication](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-create-a-timed-topic/60731/8). I fully support giving TL4 users topic timer permissions, but that’d be a new #Contribute > Feature, not a #Contribute > Bug.
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### Author:  [@rizka](https://meta.discourse.org/u/rizka)
#### Post date: [1월 22, 2018, 3:59오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-4-users-cannot-set-topic-timers-anymore/78638/5 "2018-01-22T15:59:34Z")
Trust level 4 had the feature in 1.8. No doubt about it.
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### Author:  [@jomaxro](https://meta.discourse.org/u/jomaxro)
#### Post date: [1월 22, 2018, 4:00오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-4-users-cannot-set-topic-timers-anymore/78638/6 "2018-01-22T16:00:19Z")
Did it work though? When I tested this back in August the timer didn’t actually do anything when it was triggered:
[https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-create-a-timed-topic/60731/9?u=jomaxro](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-create-a-timed-topic/60731/9)
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### Author:  [@rizka](https://meta.discourse.org/u/rizka)
#### Post date: [1월 22, 2018, 4:02오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-4-users-cannot-set-topic-timers-anymore/78638/7 "2018-01-22T16:02:21Z")
We never experienced any problems. Here is a topic that was scheduled to close in 60 minutes by a TL4 user:
> **[Turnausseuranta: Jääkiekon U18 MM-kisat 2017](https://tappara.co/t/turnausseuranta-jaakiekon-u18-mm-kisat-2017/5219/350)**
>
> Ketju suljettiin ajastetusti 60 minuutin kuluttua. Uusia vastauksia ei voi enää kirjoittaa.
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### Author:  [@jomaxro](https://meta.discourse.org/u/jomaxro)
#### Post date: [1월 22, 2018, 4:07오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-4-users-cannot-set-topic-timers-anymore/78638/8 "2018-01-22T16:07:49Z")
Consider me confused then. Moving this back to #Contribute > Bug. I’ll be quiet now and let the real engineer (@tgxworld) look at this when he comes in 😬.
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### Author:  [@tgxworld](https://meta.discourse.org/u/tgxworld)
#### Post date: [2월 13, 2018, 9:04오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-4-users-cannot-set-topic-timers-anymore/78638/9 "2018-02-13T09:04:37Z")
@jomaxro Yea topic timers are supposed to be available to admins and users with trust level 4 or higher. Do you recall why we restricted it to staff only?
[https://github.com/tgxworld/discourse/commit/e3e6fd6ea0ecf2611738127efc585afbf727d219](https://github.com/tgxworld/discourse/commit/e3e6fd6ea0ecf2611738127efc585afbf727d219)
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### Author:  [@jomaxro](https://meta.discourse.org/u/jomaxro)
#### Post date: [2월 13, 2018, 1:44오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-4-users-cannot-set-topic-timers-anymore/78638/10 "2018-02-13T13:44:33Z")
It came from this topic: [Scheduling topics for future publication](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-create-a-timed-topic/60731/10). Topic timers were not working for TL4 users when I tested it (timers could be set but nothing would happen when they triggered), so Jeff said to disable it unless it was an easy fix.
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### Author:  [@tgxworld](https://meta.discourse.org/u/tgxworld)
#### Post date: [2월 13, 2018, 1:48오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-4-users-cannot-set-topic-timers-anymore/78638/11 "2018-02-13T13:48:00Z")
Ah icic. I’ll have a look then 🙂
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### Author:  [@tgxworld](https://meta.discourse.org/u/tgxworld)
#### Post date: [5월 7, 2018, 8:23오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-4-users-cannot-set-topic-timers-anymore/78638/13 "2018-05-07T08:23:50Z")
> [@jomaxro](#):
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> (timers could be set but nothing would happen when they triggered)
Can you try reproducing this again? I tried locally but the timers were working fine for me. Thank you!
In the mean time, I’ve reverted
[https://github.com/discourse/discourse/commit/5a57a454fe713080814736442a6feb4863ec8c70](https://github.com/discourse/discourse/commit/5a57a454fe713080814736442a6feb4863ec8c70)
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### Author:  [@jomaxro](https://meta.discourse.org/u/jomaxro)
#### Post date: [5월 8, 2018, 3:40오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-4-users-cannot-set-topic-timers-anymore/78638/16 "2018-05-08T15:40:20Z")
I can confirm that auto-close, close temporarily, auto-open, open temporarily, schedule publishing, and remind me all work for a TL4 user on try.
_However,_ Auto-Delete does not appear to work.
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### Author:  [@Noah751](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Noah751)
#### Post date: [5월 9, 2018, 5:08오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-4-users-cannot-set-topic-timers-anymore/78638/17 "2018-05-09T05:08:28Z")
TL4 users cannot delete topics anyway, couldn’t you just remove auto delete for TL4 since that is the only problem.
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### Author:  [@cpradio](https://meta.discourse.org/u/cpradio)
#### Post date: [5월 16, 2018, 11:48오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-4-users-cannot-set-topic-timers-anymore/78638/18 "2018-05-16T23:48:10Z")
This is now fixed by @zogstrip
> [@Topic Timer autodelete option usable even if I don't have appropriate permissions](https://meta.discourse.org/t/topic-timer-autodelete-option-usable-even-if-i-dont-have-appropriate-permissions/87674/3):
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> Just pushed a fix grapes[https://github.com/discourse/discourse/commit/674318e1271f2584a074e024eb67990c700b02ba](https://github.com/discourse/discourse/commit/674318e1271f2584a074e024eb67990c700b02ba)
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### Author:  [@zogstrip](https://meta.discourse.org/u/zogstrip)
#### Post date: [5월 16, 2018, 11:48오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-4-users-cannot-set-topic-timers-anymore/78638/19 "2018-05-16T23:48:57Z")