# Trust Level and Group Permissions
**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-and-group-permissions/155958
**Category:** Support
**Created:** [June 25, 2020, 7:46pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-and-group-permissions/155958 "2020-06-25T19:46:25Z")
**Posts on this page:** 10
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### Author:  [@Qursch](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Qursch)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2020, 7:46pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-and-group-permissions/155958/1 "2020-06-25T19:46:25Z")
So I am helping out with a new forum, but one part has me stumped.
As of right now, there is trust\_level\_3 and a group.
My goal is to let users earn a third title (Regular for example), but not yet have the default permissions of TL3. This would allow staff and myself to view users who have made it that far, and then decide to manually give them default TL3 permissions (possibly add them to the group), or not.
I can’t find a way to do this, so my question is, does anyone know how or have a suggestion?
Or is this even possible?
Edit:
The only possible (close to) solution I can think of is making TL3 impossible, and then searching for users with the normal requirements and then adding them to a group that auto gives TL3. (But I don’t want to do this.)
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### Author:  [@maiki](https://meta.discourse.org/u/maiki)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2020, 7:50pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-and-group-permissions/155958/2 "2020-06-25T19:50:45Z")
> [@Qursch](#):
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> This would allow staff and myself to view users who have made it that far, and then decide to manually give them default TL3 permissions (possibly add them to the group), or not.
What is your goal? The method you’ve outlined sounds more difficult than just letting the default process go through. Is there an issue with the default process? 🙂
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### Author:  [@ondrej](https://meta.discourse.org/u/ondrej)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2020, 7:51pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-and-group-permissions/155958/3 "2020-06-25T19:51:08Z")
> [@Qursch](#):
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> My goal is to let users earn a third title (Regular for example), but not yet have the default permissions of TL3
Hello
This is strange 😅
Maybe make a new group and set a custom title so when you add them it applies this title without them being TL3?
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### Author:  [@Qursch](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Qursch)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2020, 7:51pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-and-group-permissions/155958/4 "2020-06-25T19:51:54Z")
We (forum staff) expect a lot of immature users, and don’t want to just let anyone gain TL3 permissions.
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### Author:  [@Qursch](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Qursch)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2020, 7:52pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-and-group-permissions/155958/5 "2020-06-25T19:52:37Z")
To my knowledge, there is no way to automatically give a user a group other than a trust level.
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### Author:  [@ondrej](https://meta.discourse.org/u/ondrej)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2020, 7:52pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-and-group-permissions/155958/6 "2020-06-25T19:52:43Z")
Set TL3 requirements really high sonit can’t be achwand promote manually?
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### Author:  [@Qursch](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Qursch)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2020, 7:53pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-and-group-permissions/155958/7 "2020-06-25T19:53:11Z")
> [@Qursch](#):
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> The only possible (close to) solution I can think of is making TL3 impossible, and then searching for users with the normal requirements and then adding them to a group that auto gives TL3. (But I don’t want to do this.)
Might be the only way.
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### Author:  [@maiki](https://meta.discourse.org/u/maiki)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-and-group-permissions/155958/8 "2020-06-25T19:55:08Z")
Oh. Is there an issue with TL3 permissions? Should I be concerned? 🤔
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### Author:  [@ondrej](https://meta.discourse.org/u/ondrej)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-and-group-permissions/155958/9 "2020-06-25T19:55:17Z")
Yep… Do that.
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### Author:  [@Qursch](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Qursch)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/trust-level-and-group-permissions/155958/10 "2020-06-25T19:55:50Z")
Not in most cases, but with immature users, they can change the title and category. Don’t need that chaos.