# Probeer de nieuwe zijbalk en meldingsmenu's uit!
**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/try-out-the-new-sidebar-and-notification-menus/238821
**Category:** Announcements
**Tags:** notifications, sidebar, new-feature
**Created:** [20 september 2022 om 14:07 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/try-out-the-new-sidebar-and-notification-menus/238821 "2022-09-20T14:07:19Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 2
### Author:  [@Tris20](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Tris20)
#### Post date: [20 september 2022 om 15:32 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/try-out-the-new-sidebar-and-notification-menus/238821/31 "2022-09-20T15:32:22Z")
> [@mcwumbly](#):
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> Hmm… are you saying you don’t want a way to see them all together unfiltered?
Kind of, but that might just be because they are prioritised by latest, rather than by importance of content to the user.
Maybe “all” could be split somehow? e.g.
But this would be dynamic. For example, if there are no new likes, then that section is empty/hidden, and we add 4 more items to “Latest”
> [@mcwumbly](#):
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> how would you expect to get back to “all” notifications? Just close the menu and re-open it?
I’m not really sure.
> [@awesomerobot](#):
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> Originally we didn’t have this “everything else” item at the bottom (boxes icon):
I loved this button immediately. It gave me a way to search less important things for something important I might have missed.
> [@Canapin](#):
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> Also, I always found that a there was a lack of a quick access to the direct messages page (you need to click twice on the letter icon in your avatar menu, that’s not very intuitive). It’s very welcome in the sidebar, though I’d prefer to have a more obvious button somewhere else close to or inside the avatar menu.
I experienced this as well. A more direct way to access the mailbox is nice.
> [@Add an Admin section to the sidebar](https://meta.discourse.org/t/add-an-admin-section-to-the-sidebar/239567/1):
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> Sidebar looks great but I’m struggling to get to the admin page now. Sorry if I missed something obvious
I also struggled for a minute. Maybe it would be good to make Admin an entire item on the sidebar? This would give us quicker access to dashboard,settings, users etc.
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### Author:  [@tobiaseigen](https://meta.discourse.org/u/tobiaseigen)
#### Post date: [20 september 2022 om 15:38 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/try-out-the-new-sidebar-and-notification-menus/238821/33 "2022-09-20T15:38:57Z")
Ah yes, mobile. I recall it’s not easy to get consistent behavior across all devices and have the composer open to fill the entire screen as it is intended to do. Maybe it makes sense to collapse the sidebar on mobile when the composer is opened.
On desktop the behavior is fine because there is plenty of space and you don’t want the sidebar to disappear when you start writing a post.
> [@Mr.X\_Mr.X](#):
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> The categories are listed by alphabetical sorting. It would be useful to keep the order selected in the `default_sidebar_categories`
I don’t think the `default_sidebar_categories` determines the sort order, does it?
But you are reminding me that there are admin settings to determine the ordering of categories that we might want to respect on the sidebar, at least by default.
Ultimately I’d like users to be able to personally decide on the ordering of categories and tags shown in the sidebar.
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### Author:  [@fzngagan](https://meta.discourse.org/u/fzngagan)
#### Post date: [20 september 2022 om 16:17 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/try-out-the-new-sidebar-and-notification-menus/238821/34 "2022-09-20T16:17:11Z")
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### Author:  [@mcwumbly](https://meta.discourse.org/u/mcwumbly)
#### Post date: [20 september 2022 om 17:22 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/try-out-the-new-sidebar-and-notification-menus/238821/35 "2022-09-20T17:22:59Z")
> [@tobiaseigen](#):
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> Maybe it makes sense to collapse the sidebar on mobile when the composer is opened.
Or just make the composer full screen on mobile perhaps? It’d require folks to minimize it when they want to navigate around and/or quote stuff, but I think I find myself doing that anyway a lot of the time…
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### Author:  [@mcwumbly](https://meta.discourse.org/u/mcwumbly)
#### Post date: [20 september 2022 om 17:57 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/try-out-the-new-sidebar-and-notification-menus/238821/36 "2022-09-20T17:57:33Z")
2 posts were split to a new topic: [Strange grey bar near bottom of sidebar on iOS](https://meta.discourse.org/t/strange-grey-bar-near-bottom-of-sidebar-on-ios/239572)
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### Author:  [@mcwumbly](https://meta.discourse.org/u/mcwumbly)
#### Post date: [20 september 2022 om 17:38 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/try-out-the-new-sidebar-and-notification-menus/238821/37 "2022-09-20T17:38:14Z")
> [@Canapin](#):
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> Also, none of these icons have title attributes.
This should be fixed now via: [DEV: Various A11Y improvements for the new user menu by OsamaSayegh · Pull Request #18288 · discourse/discourse · GitHub](https://github.com/discourse/discourse/pull/18288)
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### Author:  [@mcwumbly](https://meta.discourse.org/u/mcwumbly)
#### Post date: [20 september 2022 om 17:53 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/try-out-the-new-sidebar-and-notification-menus/238821/38 "2022-09-20T17:53:10Z")
> [@Strange grey bar near bottom of sidebar on iOS](https://meta.discourse.org/t/strange-grey-bar-near-bottom-of-sidebar-on-ios/239572/1):
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> Got a strange grey bar near the bottom in mobile view on iOS
Quite strange… do you see that here on Meta as well?
> [@Strange grey bar near bottom of sidebar on iOS](https://meta.discourse.org/t/strange-grey-bar-near-bottom-of-sidebar-on-ios/239572/1):
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> Also can we have it on theme creator?
This wasn’t on our radar yet. As we get a bit further along, we’ll probably enable it there by default, but right now, this is still experimental, so it’s a bit early to do that.
Adding elements of the sidebar to the styleguide may be worth doing as well.
We have in mind adding support for a query parameter that would allow you to enable it yourself though. This would also allow you to preview your site’s own existing theme with the sidebar prior to deploying it. But we haven’t gotten to that yet.
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### Author:  [@Mr.X\_Mr.X](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Mr.X_Mr.X)
#### Post date: [20 september 2022 om 18:37 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/try-out-the-new-sidebar-and-notification-menus/238821/39 "2022-09-20T18:37:02Z")
We’re the recent, new and unread removed from the menu? They were very useful.
Another thing, the csteogires in the sidebar seem to redirect to Unread listing. Shouldn’t they redirect to the full listing ordered from most recent towards oldest?
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### Author:  [@pfaffman](https://meta.discourse.org/u/pfaffman)
#### Post date: [20 september 2022 om 19:16 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/try-out-the-new-sidebar-and-notification-menus/238821/40 "2022-09-20T19:16:28Z")
> [@Mr.X\_Mr.X](#):
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> We’re the recent, new and unread removed from the menu? They were very useful.
Have you caught up, so they aren’t displayed because there are not any new, or unread? I almost always use the “gu” and “gn” keyboard shortcuts (on desktop, anyway)
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### Author:  [@mcwumbly](https://meta.discourse.org/u/mcwumbly)
#### Post date: [20 september 2022 om 19:19 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/try-out-the-new-sidebar-and-notification-menus/238821/41 "2022-09-20T19:19:15Z")
I started another topic about that feedback over here: [Sidebar topic list links prefer unread and new over latest](https://meta.discourse.org/t/sidebar-topic-list-links-prefer-unread-and-new-over-latest/239575)
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### Author:  [@mcwumbly](https://meta.discourse.org/u/mcwumbly)
#### Post date: [20 september 2022 om 21:00 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/try-out-the-new-sidebar-and-notification-menus/238821/42 "2022-09-20T21:00:32Z")
A post was split to a new topic: [Nest subcategories under their parent categories in the sidebar](https://meta.discourse.org/t/nest-subcategories-under-their-parent-categories-in-the-sidebar/239581)
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### Author:  [@jesus2099](https://meta.discourse.org/u/jesus2099)
#### Post date: [20 september 2022 om 21:30 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/try-out-the-new-sidebar-and-notification-menus/238821/43 "2022-09-20T21:30:11Z")
> [@Tris20](#):
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> I find the first bell, with all the notifications together a bit superfuous to requirements – the whole bar already has this content, and even better categorises the content.
Maybe it’s because I don’t have many notifications, but I prefer having only the bell, and I can still click the _see all notifications_ to go to notifications page with full list.
The category split is very confused to me (you have to guess what those icons mean) and completely overkill. 🥴
I understand it is kind of fun gadget, but the old simple chronological notification list (bell) is more efficient to me. 😁
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### Author:  [@th21](https://meta.discourse.org/u/th21)
#### Post date: [20 september 2022 om 22:11 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/try-out-the-new-sidebar-and-notification-menus/238821/44 "2022-09-20T22:11:53Z")
Can we have the FAQ more obvious instead of collapsed by default? It used to be at the top of the hamburger menu thus I put a lot of instructions on that page.
And the review queue seems hard to find now.
Accessing admin panel now requires moving the cursor across the whole screen from right to left when the sidebar is enabled, maybe an option to put the sidebar on right could fix this issue.
Also, the new dropdown menu seems to break [Hamburger Theme Selector](https://meta.discourse.org/t/hamburger-theme-selector/61210) …
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### Author:  [@ondrej](https://meta.discourse.org/u/ondrej)
#### Post date: [20 september 2022 om 22:22 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/try-out-the-new-sidebar-and-notification-menus/238821/45 "2022-09-20T22:22:55Z")
> [@th21](#):
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> Can we have the FAQ more obvious
I agree. Especially if this is going to be the default in the future so that new users can find FaQ etc quickly. For some reason it took me some looking to find the _More…_ button.
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### Author:  [@mcwumbly](https://meta.discourse.org/u/mcwumbly)
#### Post date: [21 september 2022 om 01:26 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/try-out-the-new-sidebar-and-notification-menus/238821/47 "2022-09-21T01:26:59Z")
> [@th21](#):
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> And the review queue seems hard to find now.
We do plan to add a link for this in the community section… (unless we do a whole separate Admin section as suggested here: [Add an Admin section to the sidebar](https://meta.discourse.org/t/add-an-admin-section-to-the-sidebar/239567))
> [@th21](#):
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> Can we have the FAQ more obvious instead of collapsed by default?
Do you know how your users currently reach that page most often? Is it via the hamburger link or via links people share within posts?
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### Author:  [@th21](https://meta.discourse.org/u/th21)
#### Post date: [21 september 2022 om 01:53 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/try-out-the-new-sidebar-and-notification-menus/238821/48 "2022-09-21T01:53:04Z")
> [@mcwumbly](#):
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> Is it via the hamburger link or via links people share within posts?
How do I check that? Is there a query that I can run in [data explorer](https://meta.discourse.org/t/32566?silent=true)?
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### Author:  [@mcwumbly](https://meta.discourse.org/u/mcwumbly)
#### Post date: [21 september 2022 om 02:01 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/try-out-the-new-sidebar-and-notification-menus/238821/49 "2022-09-21T02:01:35Z")
Hmm… probably not. It may take something similar to Google Analytics (not my area of expertise).
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### Author:  [@tgxworld](https://meta.discourse.org/u/tgxworld)
#### Post date: [21 september 2022 om 03:26 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/try-out-the-new-sidebar-and-notification-menus/238821/50 "2022-09-21T03:26:46Z")
> [@Mr.X\_Mr.X](#):
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> When clicking the + sign next to the Community header the create new post modal is popping with the sidebar being still open causing a bit of confusion on the top side of the screen.
This is a bug and has been fixed in
[https://github.com/discourse/discourse/commit/04cdc2910d15f7ca00d4e1e56b38d267eb7b832c](https://github.com/discourse/discourse/commit/04cdc2910d15f7ca00d4e1e56b38d267eb7b832c)
Thank you for letting us know 👍
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### Author:  [@Don](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Don)
#### Post date: [21 september 2022 om 05:06 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/try-out-the-new-sidebar-and-notification-menus/238821/51 "2022-09-21T05:06:03Z")
Wonderful things happening on Discourse these days 😍 I really like every piece of change. 🙂
I have only a question now for sidebar. Is there any chance or plan to add a setting in admin to make it fixed? So users cannot collapse it with toggle button or pressing +. And make it like on the Focused Sidebar theme hide it responsively and add the hamburger button to header when screen size smaller on desktop?
Thanks 🙂
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### Author:  [@Jagster](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Jagster)
#### Post date: [21 september 2022 om 06:11 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/try-out-the-new-sidebar-and-notification-menus/238821/52 "2022-09-21T06:11:31Z")
> [@Don](#):
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> So users cannot collapse it with toggle button
I’m curious. What is such situation you want override what and how an user wants see things?
[Vorige pagina](https://meta.discourse.org/t/try-out-the-new-sidebar-and-notification-menus/238821.md?page=1)
[Volgende pagina](https://meta.discourse.org/t/try-out-the-new-sidebar-and-notification-menus/238821.md?page=3)