# Uncategorized shows up in Categories menu and results in 404
**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/uncategorized-shows-up-in-categories-menu-and-results-in-404/31569
**Category:** Bug
**Created:** [2015 年7 月 30 日 16:28 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/uncategorized-shows-up-in-categories-menu-and-results-in-404/31569 "2015-07-30T16:28:52Z")
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### 作者：  [@tgxworld](https://meta.discourse.org/u/tgxworld)
#### 发布日期： [2015 年7 月 30 日 16:28 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/uncategorized-shows-up-in-categories-menu-and-results-in-404/31569/1 "2015-07-30T16:28:52Z")
> [@neil](#):
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> I made these changes today. If `allow_uncategorized_topics` is unchecked:
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> - Uncategorized will always show up on hamburger menu for staff.
> - Uncategorized will not show up for non-staff unless there are topics there.
> - Also, staff weren’t able to make uncategorized topics, so I gave them that superpower.
Judging from the above quote, the topic is supposed to show up but I don’t think it should trigger a 404 when an admin clicks on it.
Also, I’m seeing now that if `allow_uncategorized_topics` is unchecked:
- Uncategorized **does not** show up in the hamburger menu for staff.
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### 作者：  [@tgxworld](https://meta.discourse.org/u/tgxworld)
#### 发布日期： [2015 年7 月 30 日 16:32 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/uncategorized-shows-up-in-categories-menu-and-results-in-404/31569/2 "2015-07-30T16:32:24Z")
Hmm ok most likely a bug. Breaks when not signed in too.
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### 作者：  [@cpradio](https://meta.discourse.org/u/cpradio)
#### 发布日期： [2015 年7 月 30 日 20:55 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/uncategorized-shows-up-in-categories-menu-and-results-in-404/31569/3 "2015-07-30T20:55:16Z")
I believe that categories page is heavily cached, so you may need to wait a day or two (or clear the cache) for it to disappear.
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### 作者：  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### 发布日期： [2015 年7 月 30 日 21:06 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/uncategorized-shows-up-in-categories-menu-and-results-in-404/31569/4 "2015-07-30T21:06:34Z")
I agree, I do not think this is a bug but a caching issue, categories page is heavily cached.
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### 作者：  [@sam](https://meta.discourse.org/u/sam)
#### 发布日期： [2015 年7 月 30 日 21:30 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/uncategorized-shows-up-in-categories-menu-and-results-in-404/31569/5 "2015-07-30T21:30:53Z")
I think the bug is that we have the `allow_uncategorized_topics` option in the first place, this option is hack soup.
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### 作者：  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### 发布日期： [2015 年7 月 30 日 22:04 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/uncategorized-shows-up-in-categories-menu-and-results-in-404/31569/6 "2015-07-30T22:04:49Z")
Would it be better to leave it on always and have an Edit Category option to hide the category? We need that anyway for 1.4
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### 作者：  [@sam](https://meta.discourse.org/u/sam)
#### 发布日期： [2015 年7 月 30 日 22:24 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/uncategorized-shows-up-in-categories-menu-and-results-in-404/31569/7 "2015-07-30T22:24:02Z")
I think the best approach is to remove all the “special” uncategorized handling stuff and just have it ship as a regular editable category, do the special suppression via css controlled by a site setting.
Every few days someone has an issue with uncategorized we got to fix the root cause instead of adding more hack.
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### 作者：  [@cpradio](https://meta.discourse.org/u/cpradio)
#### 发布日期： [2015 年7 月 30 日 23:05 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/uncategorized-shows-up-in-categories-menu-and-results-in-404/31569/8 "2015-07-30T23:05:26Z")
> [@sam](#):
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> I think the best approach is to remove all the “special” uncategorized handling stuff and just have it ship as a regular editable category, do the special suppression via css controlled by a site setting.
I completely agree with this. There is little reason to have Uncategorized behave special. Sure you always need a category to be assigned to a Topic, but if someone removes all categories from their instance, surely an error will occur when they try to create a new topic and can’t assign a category.
By default, Discourse should continue to ship with an Uncategorized category, just make it a regular one though and not special. That way, anyone could technically delete it and just create another category that would be their default or whatever.
I’ve seen a fair share of uncategory logic when I’ve been in and out and I must say, it always felt like walking on pins and needles when you had to alter code that was dealing with Uncategorized.
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### 作者：  [@purldator](https://meta.discourse.org/u/purldator)
#### 发布日期： [2015 年7 月 30 日 23:30 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/uncategorized-shows-up-in-categories-menu-and-results-in-404/31569/9 "2015-07-30T23:30:22Z")
I have mentioned this before:
[https://meta.discourse.org/t/topic-silently-failing-to-be-moved-to-a-specific-category/27285/33?u=purldator](https://meta.discourse.org/t/topic-silently-failing-to-be-moved-to-a-specific-category/27285/33)
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### 作者：  [@tgxworld](https://meta.discourse.org/u/tgxworld)
#### 发布日期： [2015 年7 月 31 日 00:05 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/uncategorized-shows-up-in-categories-menu-and-results-in-404/31569/10 "2015-07-31T00:05:17Z")
> [@cpradio](#):
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> I believe that categories page is heavily cached, so you may need to wait a day or two (or clear the cache) for it to disappear.
> [@codinghorror](#):
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> I agree, I do not think this is a bug but a caching issue, categories page is heavily cached.
I don’t think it is cached as hard refreshing and clearing the cache folder in rails didn’t help.
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### 作者：  [@Mittineague](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Mittineague)
#### 发布日期： [2015 年7 月 31 日 00:07 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/uncategorized-shows-up-in-categories-menu-and-results-in-404/31569/11 "2015-07-31T00:07:14Z")
> [@tgxworld](#):
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> I don’t think it is cached as hard refreshing and clearing the cache folder in rails didn’t help.
They aren’t referring to the browser cache, but the server cache.
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### 作者：  [@tgxworld](https://meta.discourse.org/u/tgxworld)
#### 发布日期： [2015 年7 月 31 日 00:09 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/uncategorized-shows-up-in-categories-menu-and-results-in-404/31569/12 "2015-07-31T00:09:11Z")
> [@tgxworld](#):
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> clearing the cache folder in rails
I flushed `Redis` and cleared the `tmp/cache` folder in Rails too. :sadpanda:
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### 作者：  [@ljpp](https://meta.discourse.org/u/ljpp)
#### 发布日期： [2015 年12 月 15 日 14:10 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/uncategorized-shows-up-in-categories-menu-and-results-in-404/31569/14 "2015-12-15T14:10:37Z")
What is the status of “Uncategorized”? This bug is still reproducable in the **stable** branch [as of today](http://tappara.co/categories). I see no use for it, and would like to get rid of it.
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### 作者：  [@sam](https://meta.discourse.org/u/sam)
#### 发布日期： [2022 年7 月 21 日 05:45 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/uncategorized-shows-up-in-categories-menu-and-results-in-404/31569/15 "2022-07-21T05:45:08Z")
我认为我们已经解决了这个问题。
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### 作者：  [@sam](https://meta.discourse.org/u/sam)
#### 发布日期： [2022 年7 月 21 日 05:45 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/uncategorized-shows-up-in-categories-menu-and-results-in-404/31569/16 "2022-07-21T05:45:10Z")