# User rank should be a little more forgiving and give more insight

**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/user-rank-should-be-a-little-more-forgiving-and-give-more-insight/17759
**Category:** Feature
**Created:** [19 ביולי,‏ 2014,‏ 9:12pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/user-rank-should-be-a-little-more-forgiving-and-give-more-insight/17759 "2014-07-19T21:12:44Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author: ![Sander78](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/sander78/32/296615_2.png) [@Sander78](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Sander78)
#### Post date: [21 ביולי,‏ 2014,‏ 8:19pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/user-rank-should-be-a-little-more-forgiving-and-give-more-insight/17759/22 "2014-07-21T20:19:46Z")

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This is the link you’re looking for (on the admin-profile page of a user)

`http://domain.ext/admin/users/USERNAME_HERE/leader_requirements`

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### Author: ![peternlewis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/peternlewis/32/108888_2.png) [@peternlewis](https://meta.discourse.org/u/peternlewis)
#### Post date: [26 ביולי,‏ 2014,‏ 2:08am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/user-rank-should-be-a-little-more-forgiving-and-give-more-insight/17759/23 "2014-07-26T02:08:12Z")

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> must have visited less than 40% of days  
> of topics created in the last 100 days, must have viewed less than 20%  
> of posts created in the last 100 days, must have read les than 20%

So what happens if a user is in mailing list mode and reads all the messages via email? Given the mailing list mode background for my discourse (and quite a few others), this could be a problem. I suppose I could just promote people to TL4 explicitly (can I promote them to TL3 explicitly and not have them lose it?).

I have to admit to really not understanding all the different TL rights and requirements - its one of the most complex aspects of Discourse.

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### Author: ![mcwumbly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/mcwumbly/32/103861_2.png) [@mcwumbly](https://meta.discourse.org/u/mcwumbly)
#### Post date: [28 ביולי,‏ 2014,‏ 4:47pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/user-rank-should-be-a-little-more-forgiving-and-give-more-insight/17759/24 "2014-07-28T16:47:40Z")

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> [@mcwumbly](#):
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> In addition to the 2-week check implemented, another possible improvement would be to have ‘high-water’ and ‘low-water’ marks for these kinds of requirements

no insight, but added some forgiveness here 🌴

[https://github.com/discourse/discourse/pull/2596](https://github.com/discourse/discourse/pull/2596)

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### Author: ![neil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/neil/32/102150_2.png) [@neil](https://meta.discourse.org/u/neil)
#### Post date: [28 ביולי,‏ 2014,‏ 6:00pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/user-rank-should-be-a-little-more-forgiving-and-give-more-insight/17759/25 "2014-07-28T18:00:51Z")

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> [@peternlewis](#):
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> So what happens if a user is in mailing list mode and reads all the messages via email?

In that case, I would lower the “leader requires days visited” site setting (`/admin/site_settings/category/trust`) to 0 or some other low number. As always, make sure the other thresholds make sense for your community.

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### Author: ![tobiaseigen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/tobiaseigen/32/539204_2.png) [@tobiaseigen](https://meta.discourse.org/u/tobiaseigen)
#### Post date: [30 בנובמבר,‏ 2015,‏ 4:49pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/user-rank-should-be-a-little-more-forgiving-and-give-more-insight/17759/26 "2015-11-30T16:49:08Z")

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Has anyone come up with a SQL query to see a list of users and their “leader requires days visited” site setting? I’m considering lowering this number from 50% to something like 20% for just this reason @peternlewis gives. We have many trusted members who otherwise would have attained TL3 by now but have not because they use email or travel frequently or simply don’t log in enough days to get it.

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### Author: ![tobiaseigen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/tobiaseigen/32/539204_2.png) [@tobiaseigen](https://meta.discourse.org/u/tobiaseigen)
#### Post date: [25 בדצמבר,‏ 2015,‏ 9:50pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/user-rank-should-be-a-little-more-forgiving-and-give-more-insight/17759/27 "2015-12-25T21:50:32Z")

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I’ve done this now and it works very well for us.

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### Author: ![downey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/downey/32/166878_2.png) [@downey](https://meta.discourse.org/u/downey)
#### Post date: [5 בפברואר,‏ 2016,‏ 1:52pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/user-rank-should-be-a-little-more-forgiving-and-give-more-insight/17759/28 "2016-02-05T13:52:54Z")

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> [@tobiaseigen](#):
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> I’ve done this now and it works very well for us

Did you come up with the query or just make the changes?

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### Author: ![tobiaseigen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/tobiaseigen/32/539204_2.png) [@tobiaseigen](https://meta.discourse.org/u/tobiaseigen)
#### Post date: [5 בפברואר,‏ 2016,‏ 1:55pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/user-rank-should-be-a-little-more-forgiving-and-give-more-insight/17759/29 "2016-02-05T13:55:55Z")

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I just changed it. Didn’t have time to wait for a query.

The TL3 stuff has become a real topic among the moderators I explained it to.. people really took it personally that they weren’t reaching the requirements.

We still only have 7 members automatically promoted to TL3, which I think is fine.

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### Author: ![chapoi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/chapoi/32/537252_2.png) [@chapoi](https://meta.discourse.org/u/chapoi)
#### Post date: [4 בדצמבר,‏ 2025,‏ 11:31am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/user-rank-should-be-a-little-more-forgiving-and-give-more-insight/17759/30 "2025-12-04T11:31:06Z")

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