# What authority assigns the "short" names of the Emoji?

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**Created:** [2015 年6 月 4 日 23:49 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-authority-assigns-the-short-names-of-the-emoji/29665 "2015-06-04T23:49:34Z")
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### 作者： ![elijah](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/elijah/32/104055_2.png) [@elijah](https://meta.discourse.org/u/elijah)
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Discourse uses things like :``fries: to include images like 🍟 (in place of, say 1F35F FRENCH FRIES 🍟). I gather the :name: string is called a “short code”, but what authority assigns those names? I don’t find it in any of the Unicode data dumps ( [Index of /Public/UNIDATA](http://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/) )

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### 作者： ![codinghorror](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/codinghorror/32/110067_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
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I don’t know that anyone is assigning short names.

But [per the Unicode spec](http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f35f/index.htm) the name is

> FRENCH FRIES

and the short word chosen is

> FRIES

So maybe de-facto…

1. If the Unicode name for the Emoji is a single word, use that word

2. If the Unicode name for the Emoji is multiple words, pick _one_ of those words

Which one, I can’t say.. it’s clear that `:french:` would be a bad choice here 😉

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### 作者： ![elijah](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/elijah/32/104055_2.png) [@elijah](https://meta.discourse.org/u/elijah)
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Well **someone** decided that U+1F346 AUBERGINE should be called :`eggplant`: and not :`aubergine`:, so I don’t think it’s one of those two. (I came asking about :`fries`: because that’s another UK / US difference.)

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### 作者： ![codinghorror](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/codinghorror/32/110067_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
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Well, the US is correct, I think you mean 😉

I’d expect there to be a Japanese bias due to the origin of Emoji. Perhaps Japanese people call eggplants Aubergines? Apparently Nasu (茄子 or ナス?) is the Japanese word for “eggplant”.. so I dunno.

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/3X/8/e/8ee653be0c92e42507289067b583ca9ac9f448a2.jpg)

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### 作者： ![sam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/sam/32/102149_2.png) [@sam](https://meta.discourse.org/u/sam)
#### 发布日期： [2015 年6 月 5 日 02:49 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-authority-assigns-the-short-names-of-the-emoji/29665/5 "2015-06-05T02:49:25Z")

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> [@elijah](#):
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> someone decided

we should add an alias there, feel free to send a PR

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### 作者： ![Mittineague](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/mittineague/32/114259_2.png) [@Mittineague](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Mittineague)
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> [@codinghorror](#):
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> Perhaps Japanese people call eggplants Aubergines

Seems it is a legitimate alternative name, though I sure never heard of it before  
And it isn’t the Japanese, but the Brits! 🙀

> **[Eggplant](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggplant)**
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> Solanum ovigerum Dunal
> Solanum trongum Poir.
> and see text
> Eggplant (in North American, Australian, and Philippine English), aubergine (in British, Irish, and New Zealand English), brinjal (in Indian, Bangladeshi,\[citation needed\] Pakistani, Singapore, Malaysian,\[citation needed\] South African, and Sri Lankan English), or baigan (in Caribbean English)\[unreliable source?\] is a plant species in the nightshade family Solanaceae. Solanum melongena is grown worldwide for its edible fruit, typical...

Anyway, I thought the images were “mapped” so basically _any_ :word: could be used for any image.

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### 作者： ![elijah](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/elijah/32/104055_2.png) [@elijah](https://meta.discourse.org/u/elijah)
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I put this in meta for a good reason. Did Discourse name them or did they come from somewhere else? What authority did Discourse go to? Did you keep records? There are a lot of sites that offer guides to emoji and include these names, but I thought since Discourse implemented them, someone here may have an official reference s/he consulted. If no one knows, I can go ask elsewhere.

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### 作者： ![sam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/sam/32/102149_2.png) [@sam](https://meta.discourse.org/u/sam)
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> [@elijah](#):
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> someone here may have an official reference s/he consulted

The official ref is the filenames we got from emojione, twitter,google and github that extracted the images out of the apple emojis.

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### 作者： ![elijah](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/elijah/32/104055_2.png) [@elijah](https://meta.discourse.org/u/elijah)
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From which I take it the “authority” is Apple or came through Apple. That is if everyone is using the same names from the same ultimate source.

It’s not the answer I was hoping to find, but if that’s it, I’ll have to accept it.

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### 作者： ![Mittineague](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/mittineague/32/114259_2.png) [@Mittineague](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Mittineague)
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With the modal selector knowing exact names isn’t really required.  
True, it would be more convenient, but I doubt if members use more than a handful of them and they should get to know their favorites in short time no?

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#### 发布日期： [2015 年6 月 5 日 04:48 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-authority-assigns-the-short-names-of-the-emoji/29665/11 "2015-06-05T04:48:59Z")

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I have built several Unicode tools for my own use. I wanted to extend my own tools with this functionality. The only way it affects Discourse is that I’m likely to be cutting and pasting the output into Discourse forums.

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> [@elijah](#):
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> but what authority assigns those names?

The Unicode Technical Report process. UTR #51 is coordinated by Mark Davis at Google and Peter Edberg at Apple. Details on how to provide feedback is in the “Status” paragraph of the UTR:

> **[UTS #51: Unicode Emoji](http://unicode.org/reports/tr51/)**

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UTR#51 deals with emoji, but they don’t seem to deal with assigning short codes. It is merely vaguely touched on in the section on Input:

> **[6 Input - UTS #51: Unicode Emoji](http://unicode.org/reports/tr51/#Input)**
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> Emoji are not typically typed on a keyboard. Instead, they are generally picked from a palette, or recognized via a dictionary. The mobile keyboards typically have a button to select a palette of emoji, such as in the left image below. Clicking on...

> [@](#):
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> In some input systems, a word or phrase bracketed by colons is used to explicitly pick emoji characters. Thus typing in “I saw an #x3a;ambulance:” is converted to “I saw an 🚑”. For completeness, such systems might support all of the full Unicode names, such as :first quarter moon with face: for 🌛. Spaces within the phrase may be represented by \_, as in the following:
> 
> “my ⏰ didn’t work”
> 
> →
> 
> “my ⏰ didn’t work”.
> 
> However, in general the full Unicode names are not especially suitable for that sort of use; they were designed to be unique identifiers, and tend to be overly long or confusing.

However while 🌛 works here: 🌛 other names like 🍟 do not.

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> [@elijah](#):
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> other names like 🍟 do not.

Maybe your not thinking of Emoji, but unicode?  
eg.  
`&#127839;`

## 🍟

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#### 发布日期： [2015 年6 月 6 日 00:05 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-authority-assigns-the-short-names-of-the-emoji/29665/15 "2015-06-06T00:05:44Z")

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The colorful images are replacements for Unicode characters, but both are emoji.

It is starting to look like the names have been arbitrarily assigned by contributors to gemoji, a tool which creates png images from the Apple truetype font (“/System/Library/Fonts/Apple Color Emoji.ttf”, not included in the package).

[https://github.com/github/gemoji](https://github.com/github/gemoji)
