# What permissions can admins give moderators?
**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-permissions-can-admins-give-moderators/34929
**Category:** Feature
**Created:** [10월 26, 2015, 2:35오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-permissions-can-admins-give-moderators/34929 "2015-10-26T14:35:21Z")
**Posts on this page:** 17
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### Author:  [@Nathaniel\_Mattocks](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Nathaniel_Mattocks)
#### Post date: [10월 26, 2015, 2:35오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-permissions-can-admins-give-moderators/34929/1 "2015-10-26T14:35:21Z")
My question is the title:What permissions can admins give moderators?
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### Author:  [@Overgrow](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Overgrow)
#### Post date: [8월 21, 2016, 11:43오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-permissions-can-admins-give-moderators/34929/2 "2016-08-21T11:43:10Z")
Hello,
can someone point me to documentation regarding moderators and their permissions? I’m missing information about which privileges are hardcoded and which can be set by admin…
I’ve found only one pretty old relevant topic…
[https://meta.discourse.org/t/permission-changes-moderators-have-less/12522](https://meta.discourse.org/t/permission-changes-moderators-have-less/12522)
Thanks in advance!
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### Author:  [@Falco](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Falco)
#### Post date: [8월 21, 2016, 4:04오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-permissions-can-admins-give-moderators/34929/3 "2016-08-21T16:04:32Z")
There isn’t a fine grained permission system, if you are a moderator you can do everything a moderator can.
Moderators can do everything in the forum except for site settings and configurations.
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### Author:  [@jomaxro](https://meta.discourse.org/u/jomaxro)
#### Post date: [8월 21, 2016, 7:06오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-permissions-can-admins-give-moderators/34929/4 "2016-08-21T19:06:10Z")
> [@Falco](#):
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> Moderators can do everything in the forum except for site settings and configurations.
They also can’t create/modify groups.
> [@Allow moderators to create groups](https://meta.discourse.org/t/allow-moderators-to-create-groups/41408/9):
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> I am ok to add a site setting that allows moderators to create groups, its a bit technically tricky to change though in a secure way.
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### Author:  [@Overgrow](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Overgrow)
#### Post date: [11월 19, 2016, 10:16오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-permissions-can-admins-give-moderators/34929/5 "2016-11-19T10:16:51Z")
When logged as moderator I see “Your Discourse installation is out of date. Click here to upgrade.”
Is that correct? Do moderators have ability to perform core upgrade from admin panel? Shouldn’t this be admin-only tool?
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### Author:  [@jomaxro](https://meta.discourse.org/u/jomaxro)
#### Post date: [11월 19, 2016, 4:19오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-permissions-can-admins-give-moderators/34929/6 "2016-11-19T16:19:18Z")
That is not correct. You shouldn’t see anything about versions on the Dashboard.
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### Author:  [@Overgrow](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Overgrow)
#### Post date: [11월 19, 2016, 11:28오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-permissions-can-admins-give-moderators/34929/7 "2016-11-19T23:28:28Z")
Thanks for info… I’ll update to latest master to see if I can reproduce this bug again..
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### Author:  [@Overgrow](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Overgrow)
#### Post date: [11월 22, 2016, 4:56오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-permissions-can-admins-give-moderators/34929/8 "2016-11-22T16:56:05Z")
> [@jomaxro](#):
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> You shouldn’t see anything about versions on the Dashboard.
This is really strange. I’ve updated to latest Version v1.7.0.beta7 +276 and I still see version in Admin CP as Moderator, can anybody confirm this please?
Currently I’m testing this only in development environment.
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### Author:  [@cpradio](https://meta.discourse.org/u/cpradio)
#### Post date: [11월 22, 2016, 4:59오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-permissions-can-admins-give-moderators/34929/9 "2016-11-22T16:59:08Z")
Mods can definitely see the version installed and latest version available. They can’t actually perform an upgrade though.
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### Author:  [@jomaxro](https://meta.discourse.org/u/jomaxro)
#### Post date: [11월 22, 2016, 5:05오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-permissions-can-admins-give-moderators/34929/10 "2016-11-22T17:05:09Z")
Are you sure?
I definitely can’t see it at Stonehearth.
**Edit: Wait, that might be because we’re hosted…**
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### Author:  [@Overgrow](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Overgrow)
#### Post date: [11월 22, 2016, 5:05오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-permissions-can-admins-give-moderators/34929/11 "2016-11-22T17:05:49Z")
Thanks for clarification.
I’ve seen upgrade link in Admin CP before as moderator, but haven’t tested clicking on it… What happens after clicking when mod doesn’t have that privilege? Is there some kind of error message?
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### Author:  [@cpradio](https://meta.discourse.org/u/cpradio)
#### Post date: [11월 22, 2016, 5:10오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-permissions-can-admins-give-moderators/34929/12 "2016-11-22T17:10:47Z")
I don’t think they ever see the upgrade link. They can click the version number and see what changes are between the version they are on and latest, and if they try to visit /admin/upgrade it acts like the page doesn’t exist.
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### Author:  [@Overgrow](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Overgrow)
#### Post date: [11월 22, 2016, 5:45오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-permissions-can-admins-give-moderators/34929/13 "2016-11-22T17:45:29Z")
Thanks, I’ve finally got to test it and it shows the link “Click here to upgrade.” but after clicking it shows Internal error 500.. so mod can’t possibly see changes..
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### Author:  [@Falco](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Falco)
#### Post date: [11월 22, 2016, 5:51오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-permissions-can-admins-give-moderators/34929/14 "2016-11-22T17:51:54Z")
> [@Overgrow](#):
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> it shows the link “Click here to upgrade.” but after clicking it shows Internal error 500.. so mod can’t possibly see changes..
The changes are on the version link, so a mod can see the changes.
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### Author:  [@Overgrow](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Overgrow)
#### Post date: [12월 4, 2016, 8:14오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-permissions-can-admins-give-moderators/34929/15 "2016-12-04T20:14:40Z")
Is there any Moderator’s Hand Book or some guide for new mods describing all the tools and features? THX
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### Author:  [@tshenry](https://meta.discourse.org/u/tshenry)
#### Post date: [7월 26, 2019, 2:33오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-permissions-can-admins-give-moderators/34929/16 "2019-07-26T02:33:10Z")
There are now guides to cover the various aspects of moderation:
[Discourse Moderation Guide](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-moderation-guide/63116)
[Understanding user statuses, roles, and permissions](https://meta.discourse.org/t/description-of-various-user-states-in-discourse/35171) (explains moderator privileges)
[Category Group Review/Moderation](https://meta.discourse.org/t/category-group-review-moderation/116478)
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### Author:  [@tshenry](https://meta.discourse.org/u/tshenry)
#### Post date: [7월 26, 2019, 2:33오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-permissions-can-admins-give-moderators/34929/17 "2019-07-26T02:33:26Z")