# Gefluisterde antwoorden lekken in het postnummer
**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/whispered-replies-leak-in-the-post-number/176160
**Category:** Support
**Tags:** whispers
**Created:** [14 januari 2021 om 23:06 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/whispered-replies-leak-in-the-post-number/176160 "2021-01-14T23:06:02Z")
**Posts on this page:** 11
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### Author:  [@sam](https://meta.discourse.org/u/sam)
#### Post date: [25 januari 2021 om 21:52 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/whispered-replies-leak-in-the-post-number/176160/21 "2021-01-25T21:52:04Z")
So what you are saying is that if anyone ever links externally to post #17 and we take them to post #78 cause a bunch of posts got deleted - no problems - better design?
What is the point of half changing this?
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [25 januari 2021 om 21:59 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/whispered-replies-leak-in-the-post-number/176160/22 "2021-01-25T21:59:07Z")
> [@TallTrees](#):
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> critical/paranoid members who somehow imagine something terrible going on
right, but this is not a software problem with Discourse, just reassure your users that it’s normal and carry on. There is 0.0% chance we will be changing this behavior.
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### Author:  [@TallTrees](https://meta.discourse.org/u/TallTrees)
#### Post date: [25 januari 2021 om 22:04 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/whispered-replies-leak-in-the-post-number/176160/23 "2021-01-25T22:04:48Z")
No. I’m not asking for the URL to change. I’m asking for just the displayed post number to be consistent between the time line and the popup box which displays ‘post #x’ where X is a count including deleted posts and whispers.
The screenshots I posted up topic should make this clear.
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### Author:  [@sam](https://meta.discourse.org/u/sam)
#### Post date: [25 januari 2021 om 22:08 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/whispered-replies-leak-in-the-post-number/176160/24 "2021-01-25T22:08:35Z")
So show 78/12 in the timeline, really not following here
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### Author:  [@TallTrees](https://meta.discourse.org/u/TallTrees)
#### Post date: [25 januari 2021 om 22:31 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/whispered-replies-leak-in-the-post-number/176160/25 "2021-01-25T22:31:47Z")
@sam - in the following picture, where it says ‘post #580’ (circled in pink), it should say ‘post #256’ to match the timeline (circled in pink, far right of the picture):
Removing this inconsistency would be good IMHO.
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### Author:  [@sam](https://meta.discourse.org/u/sam)
#### Post date: [25 januari 2021 om 22:53 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/whispered-replies-leak-in-the-post-number/176160/28 "2021-01-25T22:53:18Z")
So given this post right here is #28.
The timeline here should show:
Post number #28 of 26.
Or you are saying the UI should show #26 and link to #28
> [@Whispered replies leak in the post number](https://meta.discourse.org/t/whispered-replies-leak-in-the-post-number/176160/28):
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> So given this post right here is #28. The timeline here should show: [image] Post number #28 of 26. Or you are saying the UI should show #26 and link to #28 [https://meta.discourse.org/t/whispered-replies-leak-in-the-post-number/176160/28?u=sam](https://meta.discourse.org/t/whispered-replies-leak-in-the-post-number/176160/28) This is all just going in circles, there is no easy change here and as @codinghorror said we have no plans to change this.
This is all just going in circles, there is no easy change here and as @codinghorror said we have no plans to change this.
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### Author:  [@TallTrees](https://meta.discourse.org/u/TallTrees)
#### Post date: [25 januari 2021 om 23:15 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/whispered-replies-leak-in-the-post-number/176160/29 "2021-01-25T23:15:00Z")
> [@sam](#):
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> Or you are saying the UI should show #26 and link to #28
Yes! The counting in the timeline is correct from the perspective of a member viewing the posts they can see - the ‘25/26’ is what’s expected and makes sense.
So to be consistent, where it shows ‘post #28’ in the box, it could display ‘post #26’ - but still link to 28 all the same.
I don’t think this is going in circles, but I’m having a hard time trying to explain this one point. Sorry for that, but I hope we got there in the end even if nothing is changed.
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### Author:  [@riking](https://meta.discourse.org/u/riking)
#### Post date: [25 januari 2021 om 23:34 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/whispered-replies-leak-in-the-post-number/176160/30 "2021-01-25T23:34:35Z")
But then you’re just going to get people asking why this is happening.
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### Author:  [@sam](https://meta.discourse.org/u/sam)
#### Post date: [25 januari 2021 om 23:36 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/whispered-replies-leak-in-the-post-number/176160/31 "2021-01-25T23:36:45Z")
I understand, but this started out about a discussion about “privacy” … eg:
**Never** reveal posts were deleted or whispered.
And now you have changed the goalposts a bit saying:
Make the UI a bit more obscure so it displays different #s in **SOME** places.
This would be an enormous change that touches on so many subsystems … including stuff like [Whispered replies leak in the post number - #30 by riking](https://meta.discourse.org/t/whispered-replies-leak-in-the-post-number/176160/30) which is baked into posts.
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### Author:  [@TallTrees](https://meta.discourse.org/u/TallTrees)
#### Post date: [26 januari 2021 om 00:02 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/whispered-replies-leak-in-the-post-number/176160/32 "2021-01-26T00:02:40Z")
@riking - the numbers in the URL are usually off to the right and not immediately visible unless you scroll (at least in my browsers). This is in contrast to the other UI elements. You are right that someone might still scrutinise the URL, but it’s harder to immediately spot and much more subtle given the topic\_id is in there too.
@sam - yes, on hearing that it would be a lot of work to change the URL numbering / linking and such, in [post 8 of this topic](https://meta.discourse.org/t/whispered-replies-leak-in-the-post-number/176160/8) I suggested it should be simple enough to fix only the most obvious mismatch in the counts and gave up on any other idea.
> [@sam](#):
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> Make the UI a bit more obscure so it displays different #s in **SOME** places.
The post number can already be shown differently in _some_ places e.g. the timeline vs the box as we’ve demonstrated in screenshots above. I’m suggesting to make that consistent, and I guess as a consequence, making the database post\_id more obscure.
I’m not sure if you agree, but I don’t feel numbers in the URL are really part of the UI as such - the URL already has the topic\_id in it, and that’s already opaque to users. Post\_id could be thought of similarly.
The only issue I see with making the post numbering displayed the same in the two suggested places is that a mod/admin may refer to a post number in text (as you did with ‘#30 by riking’), but that’s a different post to a non-mod/admin. That problem already exists now if navigating by the timeline though.
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### Author:  [@system](https://meta.discourse.org/u/system)
#### Post date: [25 februari 2021 om 00:03 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/whispered-replies-leak-in-the-post-number/176160/33 "2021-02-25T00:03:34Z")
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