Why can only staff reply without bump?

So i noticed you need to be a staff member of a forum in order to reply without changing the bump.

Why is that?

I think mostly that if you noticed a old topic and you realize you have the answer but you dont want to make an old topic from a year ago re-appear at the top of the list i think we all should be able to reply without bumping.

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Me di cuenta de que es necesario ser miembro de un equipo del foro para responder sin cambiar la fecha de publicación.

¿Por qué?

Creo que, sobre todo si ves un tema antiguo y te das cuenta de que tienes la respuesta, pero no quieres que un tema de hace un año reaparezca al principio de la lista, todos deberíamos poder responder sin tener que cambiar el tema.

To prevent vandalism. Users could append inappropriate or illegal content at the bottom of a topic and you wouldn’t even know. :scream:

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Good point.

But what if we did it only in staff selected categroies?

Do you mean restricted categories to groups?

Yes something like that or in settings

that when you set those categories only people in there can

How would that prevent vandalism? Would it be like a category restricted for trustworthy people? :thinking:

Honestly this is very edge case, how often someone wants to reply to a topic but not see bumped, and how often would a bump actually harm the forum’s role as a source of information and discussion? Bumps serve a purpose.

If someone really wants to answer a topic but not bump it, they can still ask a moderator (or admin?) to reset the bump date after they posted.

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Possibly or maybe like the post still notifies everyone that a new reply is there but the reply doesnt change the date so that is a way to prevent vandalism

Wouldn’t it go back to today?

My understanding is: if the last post is 2 months ago, and someone replies today, and staff resets the bump date, the post goes back where it was 2 months ago.


Now, on my test instance, I’ve posted a reply to an old topic, the topic was bumped, I reset the bump date, but the post stays the first on the topic list. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

I might be missing something. I’ve used the reset bump date many times in the past and I don’t understand why my post doesn’t go back where it was previously. If someone knows something about this… :sweat_smile:

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That’s because the most recent reply defines the bump date. Reset bump date was helpful when, for example, you deleted a spam post, because then it allowed you to reset the date to the one of the last post after the spam post was deleted. But now the date is reset automatically on post deletion. It was also helpful for minor edits that bumped the topic, where you could reset the date to the date when the post was created, but edits no longer bump topics.
Reset bump date still works, for example, when the first post is a wiki and a wiki edit bumps the topic. Then you can reset the date to the one of the last reply.


@ice.d what problem do you want to solve with replies not bumping the topic? Why do you want users to be able to reply without others noticing? Maybe a topic list ordered by date of post creation would solve your problem.
It’s used in the Announcements > Blog category here on Meta.
This is what you see when you visit that category:

But after ordering by activity you can see that there was a recent post in “Free Hosting for Open Source”:

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@moin this is good question.

Because for example on sweezy.community i found a post i no one has been on for sometime and i want to reply but its been a few months so i dont want to bump it essentially.

On my forum let’s say there is a guide i want to let the owner know of something on the topic that everyone should see i want to be able to reply without re-bumping the topic

From your examples that still seems rather unnecessary.

I don’t really think that replying without bumping the topic will have any real benefit for anyone.
If a reply to a topic bothers of annoys other members, the problem is probably the content posted, not the bump itself… :smile:

Anyway, there’s no way to do this and it probably won’t change if no one else is interested in the feature.

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True but im sure a time will arise I.E a small edit to the post for the author but you dont want to make it re-appear just so that people know of the edit if admins dont allow DMS or chat

In that case, why don’t you use a “something else” flag to talk to staff about the post?

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Well i may not be written by the staff sort of thing

I’m sorry, could you elaborate further on this?

Meaning if the staff didn’t write the post how would they flagigng help?