# Why does Discourse prevent users to login with Safari 14.8?

**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/why-does-discourse-prevent-users-to-login-with-safari-14-8/270064
**Category:** General
**Created:** [June 29, 2023, 5:38pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/why-does-discourse-prevent-users-to-login-with-safari-14-8/270064 "2023-06-29T17:38:10Z")
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### Author: ![NoObsol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/noobsol/32/313731_2.png) [@NoObsol](https://meta.discourse.org/u/NoObsol)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2023, 11:04pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/why-does-discourse-prevent-users-to-login-with-safari-14-8/270064/5 "2023-06-29T23:04:58Z")

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I found half an answer here 🙂

> [@Maintaining support for iOS 12 - 14 until January 2023](https://meta.discourse.org/t/maintaining-support-for-ios-12-14-until-january-2023/224747/31):
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> This change has now [been merged](https://github.com/discourse/discourse/commit/624f4a7de92d8a464c91a334bf9fad510af7e4ef). iOS 12, 13 and 14 devices will now be shown the basic HTML view. We continue to support iOS 15.7+.

@david , It’s a shame and if I understand it properly it’s absurd.

I own an iPhone 12 mini under iOS 14.8.

Because of your policy, and obvious love for planned obsolescence, I can’t login on any Discourse community anymore, and users are let alone with 2 choices.

Either they upgrade their phone, which will make the phone slower, as always, because manufacturers want that,to push customers to buy new devices every 9 months;  
Or, they stop using Discourse because they cant login. Because Discourse put an unnecessary piece of js code somewhere, to block “old” browsers

I seriously doubt that a login button needs the latest version of the latest software.

This is totally absurd.

I won’t buy a new phone because of Discourse,  
and I won’t upgrade because of Discourse neither.

Ciao Discourse 👋

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