# Why plural on these keys?
**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/why-plural-on-these-keys/107917
**Category:** Translations
**Created:** [1월 30, 2019, 12:29오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/why-plural-on-these-keys/107917 "2019-01-30T12:29:26Z")
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### Author:  [@Lure](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Lure)
#### Post date: [1월 30, 2019, 12:29오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/why-plural-on-these-keys/107917/1 "2019-01-30T12:29:26Z")
While going through plurals in Slovenian translations I have noticed some keys that have plural enabled, but I do not see `%{count}`, so it is hard to understand how they are used.
Does not make sense to have number for this, right?
- datetime.distance\_in\_words\_verbose.less\_than\_x\_seconds
Is number just added in front for these?
- js.number.human.storage\_units.units.byte
- js.links\_lowercase
- js.groups.title
- js.post.actions.defer\_flags
Does it make sense to have plural for pecentage?
- admin\_js.admin.flags.user\_percentage.agreed
- admin\_js.admin.flags.user\_percentage.disagreed
- admin\_js.admin.flags.user\_percentage.ignored
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### Author:  [@gerhard](https://meta.discourse.org/u/gerhard)
#### Post date: [1월 30, 2019, 12:50오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/why-plural-on-these-keys/107917/2 "2019-01-30T12:50:41Z")
> [@Lure](#):
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> Does not make sense to have number for this, right?
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> - datetime.distance\_in\_words\_verbose.less\_than\_x\_seconds
There was a number in this string before it was changed to “right now”. Looks like we forgot to remove the plural.
> [@Lure](#):
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> Is number just added in front for these?
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> - js.number.human.storage\_units.units.byte
> - js.links\_lowercase
> - js.groups.title
> - js.post.actions.defer\_flags
I’m quite sure that happens for `byte` and it’s quite likely that the same thing happens for the others as well. I’ll check it out when I have some time.
> [@Lure](#):
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> Does it make sense to have plural for pecentage?
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> - admin\_js.admin.flags.user\_percentage.agreed
> - admin\_js.admin.flags.user\_percentage.disagreed
> - admin\_js.admin.flags.user\_percentage.ignored
I’m not sure. 🤔 It certainly doesn’t make sense for English and German. Maybe other languages need it? I guess using pluralization doesn’t hurt in this case. 🤷♂️
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### Author:  [@Lure](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Lure)
#### Post date: [1월 30, 2019, 3:00오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/why-plural-on-these-keys/107917/4 "2019-01-30T15:00:30Z")
Thanks for the clarification.
Related question: how is the plural used for titles:
- js.groups.title
And for filters, it is difficult to decide which gender should be used as there is no context:
- js.filters.latest.title\_with\_count
- js.filters.unread.title\_with\_count
- js.filters.new.title\_with\_count
In Slovene, “topic” is feminine, while “post” is masculine. If the same form is used for both, it will be incorrect or strange in some cases.
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### Author:  [@gerhard](https://meta.discourse.org/u/gerhard)
#### Post date: [1월 30, 2019, 3:20오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/why-plural-on-these-keys/107917/5 "2019-01-30T15:20:18Z")
> [@Lure](#):
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> how is plural used for titles:
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> - js.groups.title
It’s shown in user profiles. If the user belongs to one group it shows “Group \” and if the user belongs to more than one it shows “Groups \, \, …”
Those filters are for topics.
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### Author:  [@Lure](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Lure)
#### Post date: [1월 30, 2019, 3:46오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/why-plural-on-these-keys/107917/6 "2019-01-30T15:46:09Z")
It seems that at least New (`js.filters.new.title_with_count`) is also used in Admin/Users:
Which makes a strange mismatch between `Nove` and `Novi uporabniki`. Maybe something to separate in future?
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### Author:  [@Lure](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Lure)
#### Post date: [1월 30, 2019, 3:52오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/why-plural-on-these-keys/107917/7 "2019-01-30T15:52:26Z")
Can you also explain use of these:
- js.filters.with\_topics
- js.filters.with\_category
Are they missing plural? Or is `%{filter}` name of filter?
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### Author:  [@gerhard](https://meta.discourse.org/u/gerhard)
#### Post date: [4월 23, 2019, 5:20오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/why-plural-on-these-keys/107917/8 "2019-04-23T17:20:42Z")
> [@Lure](#):
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> Does not make sense to have number for this, right?
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> - datetime.distance\_in\_words\_verbose.less\_than\_x\_seconds
I’ll remove the pluralization in an upcoming commit.
> [@Lure](#):
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> Is number just added in front for these?
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> - js.links\_lowercase
This is kind of a special case because the numbers are shown above the text.
> [@Lure](#):
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> js.post.actions.defer\_flags
The actual number isn’t shown, but the button text changes depending on the number of flags.
> [@Lure](#):
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> It seems that at least New ( `js.filters.new.title_with_count` ) is also used in Admin/Users:
No, the admin panel uses `admin_js.admin.users.nav.new` for the navigation item shown in your screenshot.
> [@Lure](#):
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> Can you also explain use of these:
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> - js.filters.with\_topics
> - js.filters.with\_category
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> Are they missing plural? Or is `%{filter}` name of filter?
Those are used as page title and are visible in the browser tab. Values for `%{filter}` are “Latest”, “Unread”, “New”, “Read”, “My Posts” and “Bookmarks”. The last 3 values aren’t visible by default.
So, for `js.filters.with_topics` you get titles like “Latest topics”, “Unread topics”,… `js.filters.with_category` is used when the filter is applied to a category and leads to titles like “Latest support topics” or “New support topics”.
While looking at this I noticed that we still have translations for the old “Hot” filter. I’ll remove those strings unless I find a place where this stuff is still used.
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### Author:  [@gerhard](https://meta.discourse.org/u/gerhard)
#### Post date: [5월 22, 2019, 11:36오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/why-plural-on-these-keys/107917/9 "2019-05-22T11:36:59Z")