Unable to backup or navigate to backups

OK this gets stranger, there are two settings?

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  • I’m using S3 for backups but not uploads (Which is a valid choice and has been the case for years? )
  • Enabling them both is not enforced by the interface.
  • I’ve not changed any settings for years.

Thus SiteSetting::Upload.s3_region is blank as I’m not using it?

Although as side note uploads should be bundled with the backups regardless, but SiteSetting.s3_region should be sufficient for that?

My backups are still failing

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