Hi there!
Is there a possibilty to control which(!) Comments are displayed on an embedding Website?
If Discussion goes wild, i don’t want to display every (of eventually hunderds) comment under the underlying Webpost.
Any possibilty to achieve this?
Thanks in Advance!
Carsten
There is no way to choose specifically which comments are shown when embedding. However there is a site setting embed post limit which limits how many will be attached to any given post. The default is 100.
Thanks for your response!
Perhaps i’ll build my own embed-Code, that gets the most “interesting” reactions.
That’s what the wp-discourse Wordpress plugin does, if you need an idea for which metrics to use…
HI @riking,
but the wp-discourcse-Plugin does not load the Comments client-side, but generates the HTML on the Wordpress-Page, right?
I like the client-side-generation-approach, because it makes caching so much more efficient.
I’ll have a look at it!
Thanks!
Client-side caching in browser isn’t more edficient than server-side caching. For instance, when cache is used server-side, you deliver the HTML generated immediately. If caching client-side in browser, you’ll have tonread the cache and update your HTML, so it may not look instant to the user.
Hi @meglio,
thanks for your input, but i doubt you can say that…
We are working with varnish-Caching in Front of the Website and I guarantee, that it makes sense in this kind of setup.
Client-Side-Handling of personalized Content is standard, if you work with caching-proxys…
Have a good Day!
Carsten
May you elaborate, please: which data and where cached exactly.
We got several Caching-Layers(Varnish, a self-written REDIS-Caching-Plugin for Wordpress and more) in this project. I think it’s not ontopic to explain the whole setup here.
The point is, that in some setup, it can make a real caching-advantage, if the cached data is not altered after every new comment. And that’s what i want to accomplish amongst others.
I had a look into the discourse-code at the weekend and tend to write my own implementation of what i need in the next weeks.
Thanks for your help!
Still not clear, where would you like the comments to be cached? In browser?
I just want to cache the HTML of a Page independent from the Comments, so i dont have to invalidate Cache-Objects in Varnish for every new comment incoming.
I’m confused, sorry. When you embed Discourse comments via JS, your comments are generated client-side, AFTER the page is loaded into the user’s browser. So you’re free to cache whatever HTML your page is: it will include the JS-comments embed code, but not the comments themselves.
I haven’t learned much about the native Discourse comments embedding via JS, but that’s how js-embedding works. Unless I misunderstood your goals.
Hi @meglio,
we discussed here two possible implementations:
native discourcse-js-embed-solution: lacks a possibility to control what posts are displayed in situations where hundreds of posts are posted in a thread. you can control the number of posts, but nothing like "display only the most-liked-posts, if there are more then 30 posts in the thread. But it is client-side in the way i need it - right!
wp-discourcse-plugin: The Discourse-Plugin for Wordpress implements the Discourcse-Posts as Comments in the Wordpress-Comment-Database. The Comments are implemented (as HTML) into the corresponding HTML-Document and are not integrated Client-Side.
That makes it clear?
Carsten
Yes, thanks. So what you’re saying is that you’d like to have some caching of the comments HTML server-side in the Discourse’s WordPress plugin, so that the whole page HTML does not need to re-render with every load?
What we did for BBS probably should carry over as an option.
On BBS we display comments that were liked by staff members. I think that is a very good option to add here.
@carstenwawer perhaps do a PR for this?
Hi @sam, @carstenwawer,
Did this get implemented? If yes, can you please point me to where I should be setting it?
아주 오래된 주제를 다시 올립니다. 새 주제를 여는 것이 나을까요?
2016년 당시 상황은 정확히 모르지만, 지금은 구글이 임베디드 Discourse 댓글을 인덱싱하고 있습니다. https://blog.discourse.org/ 의 일부 댓글 내용을 검색하여 이를 확인할 수 있습니다. 참고로 Meta에서는 embed set canonical url 설정이 활성화되어 있지 않으므로, 블로그 댓글을 검색할 때 중복 결과가 나타날 수 있거나, 구글에서 “추가 결과 보기” 링크를 클릭해야 블로그 댓글이 메타 게시물 대신 반환될 수 있습니다.
제 주요 우려는 SEO와 관련이 있습니다. 관련성이 없거나 부정적인 댓글은 SEO에 해로울 수 있습니다. 반면, 블로그 게시물에 추가적인 맥락을 제공하는 관련성 있는 댓글은 SEO에 도움이 될 수 있습니다: Google On The SEO Value Of User Comments On Websites.
WP Discourse 플러그인은 표시할 댓글을 제어하기 위해 ‘관리자 추천 댓글만 표시’ 옵션을 사용하여 이를 처리합니다. 임베디드 댓글에도 유사한 기능을 추가하는 것은 간단할 수 있지만, 블로그 게시물에 댓글이 표시될지 여부를 결정하도록 스태프에게 명시적인 체크박스를 표시하는 것이 더 나은 방법일까요?
이건 제 생각엔 다른 주제인 것 같아요. 당신의 주제는 SEO 최적화에 관한 것이고, 이 주제는 단순히 표시되는 것을 제어하는 것에 관한 것입니다.
OP에서 요청했던 기능을 구현해야 하는 또 다른 이유를 언급하는 것뿐입니다. SEO에는 크게 관심이 없지만, 이 경우엔 꽤 단순해 보입니다.
제 진짜 질문은 이 기능의 UI가 어떤 모습이어야 하는가에 대한 것이었습니다. WordPress 플러그인은 모더레이터가 게시물을 좋아했다는 조건에 의존합니다: discourse/lib/filter_best_posts.rb at main · discourse/discourse · GitHub. 임베디드 댓글에 이 기능을 추가하는 것은 쉽지만, 표시할 댓글을 제어하는 이상적인 방식은 아닌 것 같습니다.
Discourse를 웹사이트 댓글 시스템으로 사용하도록 장려하는 데 얼마나 관심이 있는지 잘 모르겠습니다. 아마도 별도의 주제가 필요할 수도 있겠네요.