Where source:meta.discourse.org would provide a similar level of context as internal quotes.
My primary use case is that I’m currently training my Staff to rely on flags instead of manual moderation, and wanted to show them this:
I copied/quoted that from the topic here on meta, and pasted it into my forum, not really thinking about what I was doing. It of course linked to a topic on my forum with the same id, which makes perfect sense, but isn’t what I want.
I could link to the post directly, which works nicely with the onebox, but I really just want to call out the relevant piece.
Aside from staff-training, I also run a few different sites that could benefit from occasionally sharing parts of conversations between them. As an added bonus, this would show users that there’s a larger Discourse world out there by bridging conversations between communities.
Yes that works, but that’s not what I’m describing. That’s a link to the entire post, I’m wondering about the possibility of linking to a quote:
The idea is to load a quote like the one above, so that readers can see a specific part of an external post instead of a link to the full thing, but also with a link back to the source.
It would be quicker than onebox to get specific info to readers, while still letting them get all the context if they want it.
edit: update with example from the link you posted
If you’ve configured Certbot to use a directory other than /etc/letsencrypt, you should use that directory in the commands instead.
The reference post in its entirety would be too much info if I just wanted to quote the piece above, and would cause more friction for the user than is ideal. Focusing on the quote instead is more useful, but now it is somewhat orphaned. Quoting parts of posts between instances would be the best of both features.
All most users need to do is make sure your Certbot installation is up-to-date and test and configure automatic renewal for the updated version of Certbot. You can find instructions for how to do this at https://certbot.eff.org . You need Certbot version 0.28.0 or newer. You can check which version you have installed by running Certbot with the --version flag.
The reason oneboxing exists is you can’t assume what other servers are running in terms of version or platform. Not to mention that just because a site is running a particular platform today, that the same will be true tomorrow.
Create a dependency on Discourse now and if anyone ever does move away any platform-specific embedding would break. It’s one of the reasons oneboxing is so damn useful.
@codinghorror that does work yeah, but it doesn’t have the same slickness as the regular copy/quote feature. Regardless, this isn’t a common enough of a case to be bothersome, but it does have me curious about what is possible.
@Stephen I hear ya, that does make sense. Though, would it not be within Discourse’s control to send information about itself to another Discourse instance if it recognized the request? There’s no assumption if a response says: “Hey, I’m a Discourse site too! Here’s the author name and post url to render alongside that quote you requested.”.
That’s a good point though about platform-specific embeds and migration issues.
Perhaps I’m envisioning something too grand here, but a Discourse instance recognizing its siblings across the web seems so cool as a concept, as does users being able to directly quote/converse with each other across communities.
10년 전에는 비슷한 논의가 있었지만, 별다른 성과를 내지 못했습니다. 이제 우리는 조금 더 많은 경험과 도구를 갖추게 되었습니다…
Discourse 팀이 한 개의 공개 인스턴스와 한 개의 비공개 인스턴스를 사용한다고 상상해 보세요. 보통은 공개 인스턴스에서 인용문을 비공개 인스턴스로 복사하게 되지만, 그렇게 하면 컨텍스트가 손실됩니다: 인용문을 확장하거나 원본으로 클릭하여 이동할 수 있는 대신, 출처 URL도 함께 언급해야 합니다. 이제 독자가 인증된 상태이고 source URL이 인용문의 일부라면, 매끄럽게 한 인스턴스에서 다음 인스턴스로 이동할 수 있습니다.
제 경우는 좀 더 실용적입니다. 인용 복사를 사용하면 원본 LaTeX 소스 코드가 유지되는데, 이는 다른 곳에 수학을 재사용할 때 제가 필요한 것입니다. 단순히 강조하여 복사하면 보통 렌더링된 MathJax만 복사되고, 소스는 복사되지 않습니다. 문제는 인용 복사가 원치 않는 도메인이 포함된 출처 표시 줄도 자동으로 추가한다는 점입니다. 따라서 여기서 필요한 것은 LaTeX 유지 기능을 유지하되, 자동으로 링크가 추가되지 않도록 하는 것입니다.
저에게 중요한 요구 사항 중 하나는, 향후 도입될 “출처 인식” 인용 기능이 선택적이어야 한다는 것입니다.
이 기능은 인용 복사 시 출처/도메인을 포함할지 여부를 전환하는 사용자 설정 또는 사이트 설정으로 구현되는 것이 이상적입니다. 현재 최소한의 인용 형식은 재사용(예: 교육용 원시 LaTeX 추출)에 의존하고 있으므로 기본값으로 유지하거나, 최소한 선택할 수 있도록 보존되어야 합니다.
