لقد قرأت المواضيع المتعلقة بضرورة وجود زر “تحديد كتمت قراءته” في Discourse، وأنا أعارض بشدة موقف فريق عمل Discourse الذي يعتبر هذه الوظيفة “تجنبًا للمسؤولية” أو “استسلامًا”. إنها في الحقيقة مجرد تسهيل، يستمتع بها مستخدمو المنتديات في تطبيقات منتديات أخرى، وهي من إنتاج أشخاص يسمحون لعملائهم باتخاذ قراراتهم بشأن كيفية إدارة سلوكهم في المنتدى، بدلاً من فرض كيفية تشغيلهم له.
لا أستخدم القوائم “جديد” أو “غير مقروءة”. أنا، مثل العديد من المستخدمين في العالم الحقيقي، أذهب إلى فئة (أو فئات) المنتدى التي أهتم بها. أحب أن أرى القائمة الكاملة للمواضيع في الفئة، حتى أتمكن من تحديد أي منها أريد فتحه وقراءته والرد عليه ربما، وأي منها لن أفعل ذلك. عندما أنتهي من الجلسة الحالية، عادةً ما أضغط على “تحديد الكل كمقروء” (مرة أخرى، في تطبيقات منتديات أخرى كاملة الميزات)، بحيث عندما أعود، يمكنني رؤية ما تغير فقط منذ زيارتي الأخيرة، ولا أحتاج إلى إعادة تقييم المنشورات التي قررت بالفعل تخطيها.
تظهر الصورة المرفقة أدناه ما أعنيه. المواضيع ذات النشاط الجديد/غير المقروء باللون الأبيض الساطع، والمواضيع التي لا يوجد بها نشاط جديد باللون الرمادي. يمكنني أن أرى بنظرة سريعة أنني لا أحتاج إلى إعادة زيارة المواضيع الرمادية، لكنني لا أستطيع معرفة ما إذا كانت المواضيع البيضاء تحتوي على نشاط جديد منذ زيارتي الأخيرة أم لا. لو كان بإمكاني تحديدها جميعًا كمقروءة في زيارتي الأخيرة، لوفر ذلك عليّ قدرًا كبيرًا من الوقت. هذا ليس “تجنبًا للمسؤولية”، وليس “استسلامًا”.
Thing is, you have no mark as read anywhere on the forum on latest lists.
You only get that in “unread” and “new” tabs, there is a feature that is missing that means you can not “dismiss new” when you are filtered into a category. You can dismiss “unread” when filtered.
I am fine to add a dismiss “new” for when you have “new” selected in a category it is not implemented yet cause it is a bit tricky.
That said, I don’t think this really would help your particular workflow that much at all cause you would have to visit “new” in the category, hit dismiss and then visit “unread” and then hit dismiss.
What it feels to me you are asking for is a mixed “unread+new” list that you can quickly clear off. You already have the last visited line you can rely on which is 100% automatic and gives you similar behavior, so when you catch up on a category you only have to read till you see the “last visit” line.
I worry though that you did not think through this request properly.
If you “cleared” stuff off, do you want Discourse to remember your position in the topic when you eventually re-visit it? Or do you want discourse to skip all the posts you did not visit?
A “strong” clear like we have for “dismiss unread” can cause confusion. My guess here is that all you are asking for is a way to turn “links” on the page from “BOLD” to “not bold visited” on demand and keep all the tracking in tact. I worry that adding such a feature would cause a lot of confusion.
All I’m saying is that, in every forum software I have encountered before Discourse, my particular workflow was intuitively easy, logical, and pretty much standard. It was easy to do exactly what I described, and I would like it if Discourse could do it too.
I don’t understand why this is a guess. That’s exactly what I’m asking for, and I thought my post was pretty clear. I hope the fact that most forums have worked that way for years will assuage your worry that the feature would cause confusion.
Admittedly, my workflow is different than yours. I use the Watch list and “consider new when” settings, and the “last visit” line.
I would not like this forced upon me by a site, because depending on how busy I am and where my head is at there are times when I may be interested in reading “marginally interested in” topics that I have not read yet and use the visited property of the title links to identify those.
Anyway, IMHO this would be more robust using JavaScript to give the class value visited so the link text color would “just work”. But it can be done using CSS that uses the general sibling combinator (tweak color to taste)
If you think all your members want this, you can enter that in your Admin -> Customize. But I really think you should enter this in your own user stylesheet and not as site CSS
I disagree that the ‘last visited’ line is functionally equivalent. There remain many threads below that line that appear to be updated/unread. Currently, my only recourse to make them all appear read is to open them all, one at a time, which is not practical.
In the equivalent feature in Gmail, if you mark a thread as read and then open it, all of those messages are collapsed. That seems analogous to skipping all the posts in a discourse topic if the feature were to exist here.
