We have a group/category that is only visible to logged in users. I.e. we’ve set trust_level_0 to have create/reply/see.
We have a few users who can be disruptive in this particular category, but their input is valued in other categories on the site. Simply asking them to stay away from that first category is not working, I need a way to kick them out, while still allowing them to participate in other categories.
Going the route of explicitly allowing everyone else, minus these few disruptive people, is not realistic as we have over 41,000 users.
Bottom line: We need a way of setting the permission of “all logged in users, minus NN1, NN1, NN3… NNn” to a category.
You’d need to create a new group, copy all the tl0 users and delete the bad people, and adjust the category permissions. And you’d need to add new people to the group as time goes on.
As Jay mentioned there is no way to create a “minus” in category permissions. This could be done in a plugin that keeps track of a custom group’s membership.
We don’t have any plans on adding “minus” security into the security tab.
One human way of solving this is:
Ban user for 7 days from the forum, if user continues being disruptive in that category ban for 30 days.
I can relate to the quandary. For example, if a passionate member was exemplary in the “cars” category but toxic in the “trucks” category I would be torn. On the one hand I would want to not lose the benefit to “cars”, on the other I would definitely want the “trucks” toxicity to stop.
If the member was reasonable, they would agree to my initial polite request. If they persisted it might be they considered themselves to be an indispensable asset and entitled to misbehave.
Having a way to avoid (postpone?) the need to make hard decisions that could lead to awkward conflict does seem like it would be something desirable. But it would need to be done with a plugin and I don’t know how effective it would be.
that eventually the member would complain about it and react poorly.
I agree with sam that a temporary wrist slap either by a short term Silence (née Block) or Suspend is the better way, even with the risk of losing the benefits to ensure the toxicity stops.
With 41k users and adding 6-10 users every day, that’s just not practical. Neither is monitoring a category 24/7, or for that matter, monitoring the user 24/7.
Follow-up question: Can a user be put on probation, so that every post they make is automatically held for moderation?
Then I’d like to add my voice/vote to this feature request. As forums grow and age, more granular user administration than what Discourse currently offers will be needed, and not just by Jag-lovers.
I just installed and tested the plugin, it works exactly like advertised. Please integrate this into the core, like @rizka suggests.
Oh, and please add functionality so that the addition to the list of a user can be time limited. IOW, so they can be put on probation for 1 day, a week, or whatever, then automatically returned to “normal”.
이미 2년이 넘게 지났습니다. 그 방법을 시도해 봤지만 효과가 없었습니다. 한 사용자는 이미 여섯 번째 정지 처분을 받았고, 그 뒤를 이어 5명 정도가 비슷한 상황입니다. 모두 특정 카테고리에서 감정을 자제하고 예의를 지키지 못해서 그렇습니다. 다른 카테고리에서는 문제없고, 오히려 지식 수준이 높아 아예 잃고 싶지는 않습니다.
현재 회원 수는 45,000명에 달하며 매일 20~50명이 증가하고 있습니다. 99%의 사용자가 잘 지내는 카테고리에서 수동으로 접근 권한을 부여하는 것은 현실적으로 불가능합니다.
문제가 되는 카테고리를 닫거나 삭제하는 것도 효과가 없었습니다. 이미 시도해 봤는데, 토론이 다른 카테고리로 번져 그곳까지 망가뜨리기 때문입니다.
일정 기간 동안은 모더레이션(운영진 관리)을 시도했지만, 인력이 부족해 지속하기 어렵습니다.