暂时隐藏帖子 / 标记为较不重要?

Yes, Discourse does via the Summarize button.

I was just hoping to have a more manual system that hints to the summarizer to do the right thing.

The goal here is the same as the summarize button. If you come to a long topic for the first time, and just want a quick glance, the important posts are there and easy to see. If you want to get involved, expand and read all.

5 个赞

The closest thing we have is giving lots more weight to staff likes when it comes to summarise. I guess we could have a mode where a staff like is infinite weight

The op feels like it is asking for a mode where there is auto manual summarise

I still don’t get the reluctance around splitting off stuff or deleting

This topic is huge, friendly, full of advice and information, all centered around photos of people’s audio setups:

It’d be nice if the “advice” and discussion around each could be deprioritized and only the “show off your setup” posts be in the summary for new users. Deleting is a bad idea, and splitting off the discussion for ‘what’s that thing?’ ‘oh thats a X’ is silly unless you also split off the photo, which is not ideal.

Here’s a topic where we solicited ideas. Ideally, in this topic, the summary would include only ideas and not the discussion around the ideas. Duplicate ideas are posted on this topic because it is impossible to filter the ideas from the discussion. We have manually processed this topic many times to gather feedback, it’s unfortunate that our users can not also benefit from that work.

I guess we disagree; splitting is really the way to go, particularly if useful info is buried in a topic.

Another example…

  1. people talking about asking for a feature (support for Amazon Music) across many topics, but being combined into this single topic.
  2. then lots of +1s, then some useful advice on how to get Amazon to do something about it
  3. then a few messages from the company marked with staff coloring to get it to stick out as “important” 4) then a lot of feedback on how feedback is being responded to
  4. questions about techniques for contacting amazon effectively
  5. responses and discussion about the effectiveness on those techniques.

Nothing there deserves to be deleted, and splitting the topic doesnt help. Summarize helps filter out the +1’s, but doesn’t do enough.

This topic is super hot right now for us. Our moderators would manually prune this daily with the current “hot” points until the topic dies down.

it almost works, but not quite… i’d want the current post to be auto-summarized for new viewers.

help me understand… why would I want historical context to disappear? we tend to only delete when the posts are bad, not when they are just noisey.

1 个赞

So then do the pruning after that burst of activity is completed. If you have an attitude that “every post is sacred and cannot be touched” then there’s really nowhere to go here. You have to take the attitude that preserving the expressed intent is what matters, which can be resolved by combining the same feedback into one post (rather than 10+) to reduce needless repetition, editing the first post to include the information, and so on.

1 个赞

Instead, add moderator notice, please like the OP if you would like the feature, further +1s will be deleted

@dannydulai I’m a little lost here, following this conversation. You first talked of something “manual”. Sam’s proposition would IMO perfectly respond to that request by summarizing according to moderator’s likes. Then you’re talking of something automatic ? Which one is it that you want ? Or what I am missing here ?

I made an English error by using the word summarize to mean 2 different things.

I want manual “hiding” as I originally stated. Sam’s proposal was to give me a manual way to add “infinite weight” to the auto-summarize algorithm. That doesn’t give me hiding. It gives me “a strong hint to the auto-summarize algorithm to hide the post when you click [Summarize Topic]”. The topic still needs to be manually “summarized” by new users clicking [Summarize Topic]. Try it – if you click [Summarize Topic] and revisit, the topic will be “unsummarized”. So if the “manual infinite weight method” is added to Discourse, I’d need a way to mark the topic to automatically show up as “summarized” to meet my needs.

I hope that answers what I failed to convey, and that you missed that [Summarize Topic] is not automatically turned on for new visits.

1 个赞

Understood. You want “hidden” by default with the option to expand. Not the opposite. So Sam’s proposition would need to come along with a way for staff to select topics or tags to be summarized by default.

您好,

我们论坛目前每月有 6,000 篇帖子,并且正在快速增长。Discourse 在管理方面确实非常出色 :slight_smile:

我非常希望能够有两种隐藏帖子类型的方式:

  • 像现在一样隐藏(类似于删除违反论坛规则的帖子:版主隐藏,只有版主能看到帖子)
    另外:
  • 隐藏帮助性较低的帖子(真正只是隐藏 - 只有版主可以隐藏它们,有兴趣的用户都可以打开它们)。

出于法律原因,“删除”帖子是必不可少的。我们实际上是使用隐藏模式来实现这一点的,因为只有具有非常高信任级别的用户才能看到它们。
“软隐藏”帖子的额外功能将非常有帮助,可以使帖子串“可读”,使其接近主题,而不会让用户看不到帖子。

我认为这种组合将非常有益,可以使论坛对用户更有帮助,因为它避免了读者因为无关帖子而导致帖子串过长而放弃阅读。

1 个赞

我们曾经使用这个插件来折叠我们认为没有价值的内容;但不幸的是,该插件目前处于损坏状态,我们没有人来修复它。

1 个赞

本着 Discourse 的社区理念,让读者将帖子评为“有帮助”或“不太有帮助”(主题内或主题外)也是一个不错的想法——这与之前不可或缺的“点赞”选项分开。通过一些逻辑,大家可以决定哪些帖子可以保留,哪些帖子可以折叠。
在像我们这样的论坛中,主题帖子很容易超过一百篇,讨论有时是基于事实的,有时是个人化的,这样的功能将有助于在不删除一些离题帖子的情况下保持主题的可读性。

您好 @Linca

您的工具还有希望再次正常工作吗?
我对它非常感兴趣。

此致

UlBre

希望管理员也能选择隐藏/取消发布某些帖子……
希望可以考虑一下……谢谢……

我最近重写了它并将其发布为一个插件。:slightly_smiling_face:

2 个赞

这是否也扩展得太多了😂,因为如果那些零内容以 AI 看不到的方式隐藏起来,那么该功能就近乎完美了。RAG 会喜欢这样。