暂时隐藏帖子 / 标记为较不重要?

I’m having a problem that a Topic starts up with a good Post, but then devolves quickly into useless me too Posts, and no policy seems to fix this behavior. Then, someone actually responds with a great Post, followed by a bunch of other me toos and uselessness. Then another great Post. The thread becomes 100+ posts long, but only posts 1, 15, and 62 are worth reading.

What I’m thinking of as a solution, is a plugin or something that let’s moderators mark posts as ‘hidden’, and so when a user views the thread, those posts are collapsed. However, anyone can click on them to open them, and you can click to open them all. I don’t want the less important posts to be deleted or unviewable, but I don’t want them in the Topic browser’s face.

Is this possible now in Discourse or via an existing plugin? Do you have any suggestions other than mine to solve this problem of the long Topic with mostly useless Posts?

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This is already possible via the “Summarize Topic” button at the top of the topic. This will only appear on topics longer than {x} posts where {x} defaults to 50 out of the box, but can be adjusted via site setting.

When a topic is too long to read, and you want the TL;DR version. Try that first.

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I looked into “Summarize Topic”, and although it was a good effort, it relies on Likes and maybe some other automated things. This doesn’t really get the summary right because many of the “me toos” are liked. I really want a human moderator to pick.

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Is it realistic to expect a human moderator is going to go through every single topic and manually mark “just the good posts”?

If this kind of radical moderation is needed, I suggest deleting all the meaningless “me too” posts, which will be suppressed (soft-deleted) for all non-staff users visiting the topic. Then post a staff reply that says “hey, any me-too replies will be deleted, please only reply with {rules}”

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Me too! It could be a team of moderators or people with a high TL. Or use a weighted Like score with more weight given to higher TL users.

Yes, for some forums, and no for others. I review all posts in my forum.

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I would also appreciate manual hiding of posts as a feature. In my case, it’s to hide my own off-topic moderator posts and replies to it.

More concretely, we repeatedly have people post logfile content as plain text rather than preformatted/fenced code blocks and I keep fixing that and posting a public reply with an explanation. We are also trying to establish a culture of liking posts (no idea why people are ignoring the :heart: button) so I’m also posting public hints on that.

A lot of the time, that will be a single off-topic post and that’s okay, but sometimes people reply to my post and then I might reply again so that there is a longer sequence of OT posts and it is those that I would like to hide.

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Would this be different from the “transparent deletion” system you suggested here? It sounds to me like it solves a similar problem (which I completely agree needs solving!).

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Good point. I didn’t see this here as deleting but you are right: it corresponds to the highest level of transparency that I suggested there:

So, yes, if the transparent deletion would be implemented, it would make sense to integrate it with the hide posts feature.

But since it seems that transparent deletion is not anywhere on the roadmap at the moment, I’d still like to push for manual post hiding.

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It’s been years. Is this possible now? I think this is important for big forums.

I also think this would be a good feature to have.

Until this feature exists one workaround would be for the moderators to hide just the text of the less important posts.

Like this

Just edit the post, select all the text, press the :gear: symbol and select “hide details”.

I wish to second this so much. I too have the need to hide some posts in a topic.

In my case we don’t have that many posts, but some of them are not contributing much value, but too much to justify deleting them.

We already have a summary post at the very top, so that doesn’t solve the problem. We just simply want to make posts that aren’t contributing as much value as the other ones less apparent, but still viewable.

It would be perfectly fine if such posts were collapsed and there was a grey text saying “Click to show this post” or whatever, the important thing is that they don’t show by default and that users see that they’re posts that exist but aren’t shown fully, and that they can click on the post or similar to show it.

I searched the forum here but can’t find anything like this. Is there anything that can do this yet?

Often this request simply means:

“I am a moderator and there is tons of junk in a particular topic, I don’t ever want to delete anything cause I am afraid to hurt people’s feelings”

There are quite a few options you have:

  • People do get over being deleted, you can simply be a bit harsher and delete for the greater good

  • You can split off the gold into another topic

  • You can make the OP wiki, and just summarize and link to all the great content in the mega topic from there.

Manually “shrink” portions of conversation is an interesting request but in practice I think it is just masking dealing with an underlying problem.

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I think it is fine if you announce intention to “clean up”, explain why the topic is being pruned, and indicate it’s specific to certain topics like that one.

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Guys, this is not about an inability to clean up threads. I have personally already deleted and split/moved numerous posts in the threads I’m considering when supporting the request we’re discussing here.

In fact, that’s exactly the type of maintenance I was doing when I noticed I had gotten a reply in this topic.

Deleting posts is not the proper thing to do here, at least not in my use case. If it was, I would have done it already.

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Does not reflect the above, so maybe you should create a new topic then, if your posts are off-topic in this particular topic?

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我运营着一个论坛,主题是关于一群债权人试图组织法律行动。其中“隐藏”帖子和信息分层是一个至关重要的功能,但目前缺失。

  1. 讨论主题旨在解决问题。有些帖子对高层理解至关重要且高度相关,而有些则不然。相关性较低的帖子并非毫无用处,它们往往为论点增添细微差别,有时甚至记录了关键人物的意见(同意或反对)。因此,能够以分层方式查看这些讨论至关重要。

  2. 正如其他人所指出的,热门并不等于重要。即使存在相关性,受欢迎程度也常与随机的人格因素而非信息本身混淆。帖子摘要功能屡屡失败,失败频率之高,以至于根本不值得建议用户使用,因为它会制造出极其混乱的讨论串。

  3. 将嘈杂混乱的主题转化为更有条理的参考主题,可以让繁忙的论坛迅速将讨论串转变为类似维基页面的形式。允许版主标记隐藏或重要性较低的帖子将使这一目标成为可能,这将极大提升贵产品的价值。

如果您不希望在 Discourse 中允许隐藏帖子或可变重要性标记,那么请允许版主为讨论主题创建精选的“视图”,并在主题顶部及界面的其他合适位置提供这些视图的链接。

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依我看,能够手动折叠帖子(无论出于何种原因或理由)是个好主意。这能不能通过一个插件来实现呢?如果感兴趣的人出资请人开发具备该功能的插件,大家都会满意。这样的插件会很复杂吗?(看起来不太复杂,但也许我错了)。

那么老实说,我认为你应该选择 Discourse 以外的其他软件。我不确定是否有_任何_论坛软件能做到你所描述的功能。你能指出互联网上任何实际的例子吗?

很遗憾没有。此外,尽管当我知道某个特定功能会让我的生活轻松很多时,我会感到暂时的沮丧,但除非有一个明显更优越的论坛平台(我认为这不太可能),否则我不会考虑离开 Discourse。Discourse 在很多方面都做得非常好,是一款出色的产品。

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好吧,我并不是特意把它当作挑战,但真的有什么软件能做到这一点吗?