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RBoy · 5월 8, 2026, 1:01오후

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Falco · 5월 8, 2026, 1:08오후

그렇다면 게시물 120에 어떤 내용이 포함되어 있는지 확인해야 합니다(단순히 /p/120으로 이동하면 됩니다). 그리고 LLM이 해당 게시물을 번역하려고 했을 때 어떤 응답을 했는지 확인하세요(ai_api_audit_logs 테이블을 확인하십시오).

RBoy · 5월 8, 2026, 1:17오후

이 쿼리를 사용하여 감사 로그를 확인하면

SELECT 
  feature_name,
  created_at,
  post_id,
  response_tokens
FROM 
  ai_api_audit_logs
WHERE 
  post_id IS NOT NULL
  AND created_at > :start_date
  AND (response_tokens IS NULL OR response_tokens != 1)
ORDER BY 
  created_at DESC

로그에 표시된 날짜/시간戳(타임스탬프) 근처의 해당 게시물에 대한 결과가 아무것도 없습니다.
다른 부분을 살펴봐야 할까요?

Falco · 5월 8, 2026, 1:19오후

네, WHERE 절에서 response_tokens 조건을 모두 제거합니다.

RBoy · 5월 8, 2026, 5:03오후

오, 먼저 전에 오타를 쳤습니다. PM이 아니에요. /p/120을 사용하라고 하셨는데 저는 /t/120을 사용했습니다.

/p/120은 https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/63/1을 가리킵니다.

그런데 업데이트된 쿼리를 테이블에서 실행해 보았더니 로그에 있는 타임스탬프(Th 11:25 pm)에 해당하는 항목을 찾을 수 없었습니다.

테이블에서 해당 타임스탬프와 가장 가까운 항목은 다음과 같습니다:

feature_name	created_at	post	response_tokens
translation	2026-05-07T23:26:15.471Z	`https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/5897/1`	2423
translation	2026-05-07T23:11:23.504Z	`https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/5896/2`	425

위 포스트 ID 중 어느 것도 에러 로그의 포스트 ID와 일치하지 않습니다.

해당 포스트 ID에 대한 참조가 로그에서 확인되는 유일한 시점은 훨씬 이후입니다.

feature_name	created_at	post	response_tokens
translation	2026-05-08T03:10:18.214Z	`https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/63/1`	0

Falco · 5월 8, 2026, 5:35오후

응답 토큰은 디버깅에 쓸모가 없습니다. 원본 응답을 표시해야 합니다.

RBoy · 5월 8, 2026, 7:25오후

문제는 로그와 동일한 타임스탬프 및 게시글 ID를 가진 응답을 찾을 수 없다는 것입니다.

해당 게시글 ID에 대한 다음 데이터 덤프는 약 1시간 후에 나타났으며, 그 내용은 다음과 같습니다(일부 생략):

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data: {"id":"chatcmpl-35a85986-7a6b-4169-893a-b43bcc22b1f2","object":"chat.completion.chunk","created":1778209824,"model":"openai/gpt-oss-120b","system_fingerprint":"fp_d66938db44","choices":[{"index":0,"delta":{"reasoning":" final","channel":"analysis"},"logprobs":null,"finish_reason":null}]}

data: {"id":"chatcmpl-35a85986-7a6b-4169-893a-b43bcc22b1f2","object":"chat.completion.chunk","created":1778209824,"model":"openai/gpt-oss-120b","system_fingerprint":"fp_d66938db44","choices":[{"index":0,"delta":{"reasoning":" translation","channel":"analysis"},"logprobs":null,"finish_reason":null}]}

data: {"id":"chatcmpl-35a85986-7a6b-4169-893a-b43bcc22b1f2","object":"chat.completion.chunk","created":1778209824,"model":"openai/gpt-oss-120b","system_fingerprint":"fp_d66938db44","choices":[{"index":0,"delta":{"reasoning":".\n\n","channel":"analysis"},"logprobs":null,"finish_reason":null}]}

event: error
data: {"error":{"message":"Failed to generate JSON. Please adjust your prompt. See 'failed_generation' for more details.","type":"invalid_request_error","code":"json_validate_failed","failed_generation":"max completion tokens reached before generating a valid document","status_code":400}}

이것은 토큰이 소진되었음을 나타내는 것으로 보이지만, 여기에서 문제가 되는 로그에서 확인되는 경고와는 다릅니다.

데이터가 다른 테이블에 있는 것은 아닌가요?

Falco · 5월 8, 2026, 7:53오후

추론 토큰이 max_tokens 완료 한도를 모두 차지하고 있습니다. 번역에 추론을 사용하지 않는 또 다른 이유입니다.

이 문제를 해결하기 위해 사이트 설정이 있었지만

과거에 이를 제거했습니다.

github.com/discourse/discourse

DEV: Update prompts for translations (#38965)

main ← prompt-updates

merged 03:30PM - 30 Mar 26 UTC

nattsw

+36 -80

This PR updates the system prompts for the post and topic title translators to p…roduce more natural, idiomatic output. The previous prompts optimised for accuracy, which led to translations that were technically correct but read like machine translation being overly literal, sometimes the wrong register, and occasionally picking the wrong sense of an ambiguous word.

RBoy · 5월 9, 2026, 1:45오후

업데이트 감사합니다. 번역을 위해 비추론 모델 3b로 전환했습니다. 어떻게 될지 지켜보겠습니다.

RBoy · 5월 10, 2026, 6:18오전

추론을 사용하지 않는 Ollama 3.1 3B 모델로 전환한 후, 완전히 다른 오류가 발생합니다:

DiscourseAi::Completions::Endpoints::OpenAi: status: 400 - body: {“error”:{“message”:“This model does not support response format json_schema. See supported models at Structured Outputs - GroqDocs”}}

어떻게 진행해야 할지 조금 혼란스럽습니다. discourse에서 번역에 적합한 모델은 무엇인가요?

Falco · 5월 10, 2026, 11:25오전

구조화된 출력을 지원하는 모델이 필요합니다. 이는 기본적으로 최근 출시된 최첨단(SotA) 모델들 모두 해당됩니다.

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Discourse AI Failing to translate large number of posts and topics Support ai , content-localization	7	403	11월 6, 2025
Error when translate post by ai （Job exception: undefined method `strip' for an instance of DiscourseAi::Completions::StructuredOutput Support ai , dynaloc	5	239	11월 30, 2025
AI translation backfill not working after all settings configured Support ai , content-localization	34	1142	11월 13, 2025
AI Translation skips Portuguese (pt) locale - post translated to all languages except Portuguese Bug ai , dynaloc	25	585	4월 22, 2026
The usage problem after using AI translation Support ai , dynaloc	7	402	7월 15, 2025

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