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Ich habe eine Reihe dieser Einträge in den Logs bemerkt:

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Dann müssen Sie prüfen, was der Beitrag 120 enthält (einfach zu /p/120 navigieren) und dann nachschauen, welche Antwort das LLM gab, als es versucht hat, dies zu übersetzen (prüfen Sie die Tabelle ai_api_audit_logs).

1 „Gefällt mir“
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Wenn ich die Audit-Logs mit dieser Abfrage durchsehe:

SELECT 
  feature_name,
  created_at,
  post_id,
  response_tokens
FROM 
  ai_api_audit_logs
WHERE 
  post_id IS NOT NULL
  AND created_at > :start_date
  AND (response_tokens IS NULL OR response_tokens != 1)
ORDER BY 
  created_at DESC

Enthalten die Ergebnisse für diesen Post um den im Log angegebenen Zeitstempel herum nichts.
Gibt es noch etwas anderes, das ich prüfen sollte?

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Ja, Sie entfernen den gesamten response_tokens-Abschnitt aus der WHERE-Klausel.

5

Okay, zunächst habe ich mich vorher vertippt, es ist keine PM. Ich habe bemerkt, dass du /p/120 erwähnt hast, ich aber /t/120 verwendet habe.

/p/120 verweist auf https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/63/1

Danach habe ich die aktualisierte Abfrage auf der Tabelle ausgeführt, aber ich sehe keinen Eintrag zum Zeitstempel aus den Logs → Do 23:25 Uhr

Ich sehe nur diese Einträge in der Tabelle, die dem Zeitstempel am nächsten liegen:

feature_name created_at post response_tokens
translation 2026-05-07T23:26:15.471Z https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/5897/1 2423
translation 2026-05-07T23:11:23.504Z https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/5896/2 425

Keine der obigen Post-IDs entspricht der Post-ID im Fehlerprotokoll.

Die einzige Referenz auf diese Post-ID sehe ich viel später in den Logs

feature_name created_at post response_tokens
translation 2026-05-08T03:10:18.214Z https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/63/1 0
6

Antwort-Token sind für das Debugging unbrauchbar, Sie müssen die Rohantwort anzeigen.

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Das Problem ist, dass ich keine Antwort mit demselben Zeitstempel wie im Log und der Post-ID sehe.

Der nächste Daten-Dump, den ich für diese Post-ID sehe, ist etwa eine Stunde später und enthält Folgendes:

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event: error
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Das Problem ist, dass ich keine Antwort mit demselben Zeitstempel wie im Log und der Post-ID sehe.

Der nächste Daten-Dump, den ich für diese Post-ID sehe, ist etwa eine Stunde später und enthält Folgendes:

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event: error
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Die Reasoning-Token verbrauchen alle Token am max_tokens-Abschlusslimit. Ein weiterer Grund, warum wir Reasoning nicht für Übersetzungen verwenden.

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Danke für das Update. Ich habe für Übersetzungen auf ein nicht schlussfolgerndes 3B-Modell umgestellt. Mal sehen, wie es läuft.

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Nach dem Wechsel zum Ollama 3.1 3B-Modell, das kein Reasoning verwendet, sehe ich nun einen völlig anderen Fehler:

DiscourseAi::Completions::Endpoints::OpenAi: status: 400 - body: {“error”:{“message”:“Dieses Modell unterstützt das Antwortformat json_schema nicht. Unterstützte Modelle finden Sie unter Structured Outputs - GroqDocs”}}

Ich bin etwas ratlos, wie ich weiter vorgehen soll. Welches Modell eignet sich für Übersetzungen in Discourse?

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Du benötigst ein Modell mit Unterstützung für strukturierte Ausgaben, was im Grunde jedes kürzlich veröffentlichte SotA-Modell ist.

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