Discourse for Academic Use Features (Done and to be Done)

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This discussion explores features needed for using Discourse in academic contexts, both existing and desired. xiasummer initiated the thread, listing current capabilities such as Markdown, HTML, OneBox, MathJax (via plugin, though conflicting with iframe), footnotes, DOI resolution, and PDF export. They also highlighted tools like Overleaf and Google Docs for collaborative writing, and raised questions about discipline-specific needs — e.g., LaTeX for math/physics, code tools for CS, drawing tools for chemistry, and logic symbols for philosophy. tophee suggested a highlighting plugin for long academic posts, and later proposed integrating Zotero for literature management, allowing users to insert citations without leaving Discourse. allu endorsed Zotero but shared experience with YouTube-based citation tools as a simpler alternative. G_N proposed linking PDF downloads to DOI assignment via Zenodo. robbie.morrison described a use case for co-author collaboration during peer review, suggesting private categories and groups for sensitive paper discussions. pfaffman confirmed this setup is feasible using private category permissions. huynhthai824 referenced Zotero’s WordPress integration and asked if similar citation standards (APA, IEEE) could be supported in Discourse. The thread remains open for community input, with the OP now a wiki for collaborative updates.

I want to have a special topic about how to use Discourse for Academic Use.

1. What we already have?

Markdown Supporting.

Html Supporting

OneBox Feature

MathJax Supporting with plugin.

 - git clone https://github.com/kasperpeulen/discourse-mathjax

I have to say it was conflict with another plugin “iframe”. If you have iframe plugin, you have to delete it.

Also another plugin can do it:

Footnote and Reference

https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-footnote/84533/20

DOI resolver

https://meta.discourse.org/t/doi-resolver-updated/38920

Print long topic to PDF, etc

https://meta.discourse.org/t/print-long-topic-to-pdf-redux-again/44639

Outside Websites Support(Boxes & etc.)

  1. github.com support
  2. arxiv support

Plotting Tools

CCS support

Team Topics


2. What we want to have?

reference


P.S. You can reply me about the functions that you think are important for academic use in discourse and whether it has been developed already or in developing.

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Like oneboxing some academic websites?

  • Oneleaf?

  • Google Drive/Dropbox?

Are these supported already?

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I’m assuming you mean overleaf, not “oneleaf”?

That and google docs were demonstrated in your previous topic:

Google drive & Dropbox also onebox in the same way.

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Sorry, I think it is

which supports Latex Collaborative Writing and Publishing.

What is one-leaf, seems to be a forum.

Excellent idea to start this topic!

I’d consider a highlighting plugin (or even as a core function) extremely useful for the academic context, but also for other communities where posts might be a bit longer so that highlights would be a great way of finding the most important parts of those posts. I proposed the highlighting feature in more detail here:

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Actually I’m really wondering What do we need for academic use?

For different areas, the tools are so different.

Like in Physics, Math, we just need Latex and some curving tool.

In Computer science, maybe the coding tool? or we may need some “Select as the right answer” tool in bug fix questions like in the stackoverflow

In Chemistry, we may need some drawing tool?

In Logic, we may need the logical icons?


As a matter of fact, I think it is quite good to have markdown and latex and the other tools listed befor

But how to make people come and discuss on the web? How to provide the best service when talking about academic problems?


By the way, it is very good to have a highlight tool

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Hi, I found a list.

I’m wondering how many of these tools can be and should be integrated into Discourse.

How about a literature database that makes it easy to include references in posts?

A few thoughts on such a literature plugin:

  1. I guess there is no point in creating a database in discourse from scratch, given existing solutions such as zotero, mendeley, endnote and (hopefully soon) Citavi Web.
  2. To start with, I think the focus should be on supporting zotero, since it’s free and open source (and perhaps there will never be a need to support anything else).
  3. My idea would be that the plugin acts as an interface between a dedicated zotero database and the discourse forum.
  4. Starting with an empty db, a user who wants to add a reference (via a button in the editor) gets the option to add a new reference (not sure if this should be done with a dedicated discourse ui or simply using the existing zotero ui, but the user should not have to leave discourse to do it)
  5. Once there are records in the db, users can search them and paste them into their post while editing.
  6. The citation style should probably be fixed via a site setting (cite setting :stuck_out_tongue:)
  7. There should be a dedicated bibliography page where all db records are listed in alphabetical order with to all the posts where the respective item is cited.

Now, the last point is where it becomes tricky: Since this type of linking is analogous to how discourse already works, the best way to achieve this might be to create a post for every reference, but I’m not sure about this, since there should only be one record for each item and that should be in zotero, I suppose.

But it would also be conceivable that the zotero database is used merely as a way of quickly insert text which would then live a life of its own, without any links, but that would defeat the purpose of making it easy to find all posts citing a specific text.

Any comments or ideas?

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Zotero is great if you really need to build your own literature database (with all the advantages & disadvantages of this route). I originally had Zotero attached to a Wordpress/bbPress forum, but have moved away from that approach and am using this instead:

For a use case where you basically just want to assist users in providing correct litterature references, I find this a much more practical approach. Check out the demo video below, I would LOVE to see this kind of functionality available on Discourse. It would really help to open it up for academic scenarios.

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Here is the latest addition to your collection:

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Download PDF feature may support the possibility to upload the document to obtain a DOI number from, say https://zenodo.org/. My interest is to have a feature (or through a plugin) to submit and obtain DOI number to a selected or featured topics using the API available from Developers | Zenodo through a click of a button (available for the staff users).

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Support GitHub

Bonjour, je pense que ce message devrait être mis à jour à plusieurs reprises. Cette liste devrait donc pouvoir être rééditée par mes soins. Je ne peux pas modifier mes anciens messages maintenant.

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J’ai transformé le message original en wiki, vous pouvez donc le modifier maintenant.

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Soutenir les discussions entre co-auteurs

Je publie ici et non sur le wiki en haut car je ne suis pas suffisamment sûr de mes faits.

On m’a récemment demandé d’utiliser un nouveau forum Discourse que j’administre comme lieu pour discuter d’un article universitaire en évolution au fur et à mesure de son parcours d’évaluation par les pairs. Le contexte académique dans ce cas est l’analyse des systèmes énergétiques numériques multidisciplinaire — mais la discipline particulière impliquée ne devrait pas être particulièrement pertinente. Par conséquent :

  • Cas d’utilisation : utiliser une instance Discourse pour discuter des modifications évolutives d’un article (dans ce cas, nécessitant des « révisions substantielles » !)

  • Explication : Discourse sera utilisé uniquement pour la discussion — les modifications réelles, c’est-à-dire la préparation du document, auront lieu ailleurs (par exemple, Google Docs, Overleaf, MS Teams ou GitLab)

  • Exigences : les discussions doivent être complètement privées pour la liste des auteurs et visibles par personne d’autre (sauf les administrateurs)

Une solution

Je pense que je dois d’abord créer un groupe avec uniquement les co-auteurs, disons « u4ria-goals-authors ». Puis une catégorie, disons « U4ria goals ». Et verrouiller cette catégorie, puis la rendre accessible uniquement au groupe des co-auteurs.

Une question qui se pose est de savoir si je peux créer une catégorie « Papers » puis une sous-catégorie « U4RIA goals », puis mapper « u4ria-goals-authors » uniquement à cette sous-catégorie ?

Conclusion

En prenant du recul, peut-être que le cas d’utilisation plus large des discussions privées devrait être davantage développé par les développeurs et la communauté Discourse — pour voir si un support spécifique et une meilleure documentation pourraient aider dans ce contexte ? Avec mes meilleurs vœux, R

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C’est ce qu’il faut faire.

C’est exact aussi.

La documentation que vous envoyez existe et n’est pas nécessaire pour vous puisque vous comprenez déjà comment cela fonctionne sans la lire (avez-vous recherché « category group », par exemple ?) :wink:

Consultez Comment créer des catégories privées à l’aide des paramètres de sécurité des catégories pour confirmer que ce que vous pensiez savoir est effectivement correct !

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«Vidéo indisponible, mais j’ai trouvé cette vidéo : https://youtu.be/1elUGdZ2uvY?si=RHwvlLZ51bUyV4c3 à propos de Zotero pour WordPress.\n\nLes fonctionnalités de Zotero pourraient-elles également être implémentées pour Discourse ?\n\nPlus spécifiquement, Discourse peut-il prendre en charge la génération de citations académiques standardisées (comme APA, IEEE, etc.) de la même manière que fonctionne EndNote dans Word ?»