Numero massimo di utilizzo consecutivo degli strumenti nella risposta

[Don]

Ciao

Ho creato due strumenti personalizzati per raccogliere informazioni dai webshop. Tali informazioni sono il nome del web store, il link del prodotto, il prezzo e le informazioni sullo stock. Dopo queste informazioni, elenca i risultati in una tabella.

1. Per questo, ho creato uno strumento di ricerca Google personalizzato simile allo strumento di ricerca Google integrato, ma posso limitare il numero di risultati e sono stato in grado di creare una ricerca programmabile separata che viene utilizzata solo da questo strumento. Questo è stato necessario in modo che i risultati contenessero solo webshop pertinenti.

2. Il prossimo strumento personalizzato è simile allo strumento di navigazione web di Discourse, ma l’ho ottimizzato specificamente per i web store. Quindi, prima di tutto, cerca il formato schema.org basato su JSON “Offer o Product” situato in <script type="application/ld+json"> ed esegue al suo interno e cerca i dati necessari (prezzo, informazioni sullo stock). Se questo non produce risultati, inizia a cercare lo stesso in base all’itemtype. Se anche questo non produce risultati, entra in gioco ciò che fa lo strumento del browser per impostazione predefinita, ovvero iniziare a esaminare i contenuti principali della pagina e cercare le informazioni necessarie. Un’altra cosa importante che è stata integrata in questo è il limite di token. Dove posso impostare il limite massimo di token durante la navigazione. Attualmente è 3000.

Ma il motivo per cui sto scrivendo questo argomento è che esiste un limite nell’uso degli strumenti? Perché ho notato che dopo 5 utilizzi dello strumento il processo viene interrotto. Questo è l’altro motivo per cui ho integrato la limitazione dei risultati nella ricerca personalizzata. L’ho impostata a 4 perché poi lo strumento del browser può funzionare con successo. Se la imposto a 5, lo strumento del browser fallirà al 5° utilizzo dello strumento.

Ad esempio: in una risposta dopo 1 ricerca Google e 5 browser web di fila ricevo un avviso in /logs.

Message (3 copies reported)

DiscourseAi: Tool not found: tool-name

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[denvergeeks]

@Don

lo strumento di navigazione web di Discourse

Cos’è lo strumento di navigazione web di Discourse e dove posso trovarlo/ottenerlo?!

[Jagster (Jakke Lehtonen)]

Credo si riferisca a strumenti che un’IA può utilizzare. Pertanto, questi possono essere abilitati durante la modifica delle IA-persone.

[MachineScholar]

Non ho ancora riscontrato questo problema, ma se si tratta effettivamente di una limitazione hardcoded, sarebbe davvero fantastico poterla sovrascrivere!

@denvergeeks

Cos’è lo strumento di navigazione web di Discourse e dove posso trovarlo/ottenerlo?!

Nelle persona fornite dal plugin per impostazione predefinita c’è quella del “Ricercatore”. Puoi dare un’occhiata per vedere come funziona

[Falco]

Qual LLM stai utilizzando?

Il tuo LLM sta restituendo più di 5 chiamate di funzione in una singola risposta, come se fossero chiamate di funzione parallele?

Puoi condividere quella risposta LLM?

[Don]

@Falco

Quale LLM stai usando?

GPT4o, GPT4o Mini, Gemini Flash 2. Onestamente ci ho provato con molti LLM.

@Falco

Il tuo LLM sta restituendo più di 5 chiamate di funzione in una singola risposta, come se fossero chiamate di funzione parallele?

Sì, questo accade quando imposto Strumenti Forzati e aggiungo un messaggio di sistema alla Persona per controllare le cose. Ad esempio: “visita tutti i siti web trovati nella ricerca di Google”. Questo è necessario per un caso d’uso che ho.

@Falco

Puoi condividere quella risposta dell’LLM?

Ti invierò un esempio in PM perché potrebbe essere un contenuto inappropriato per il pubblico. In quell’esempio il bot sta utilizzando la Ricerca Google e il Web Browser con Gemini Flash 2.

[sam (Sam Saffron)]

@Don

Sì, questo accade quando imposto Strumenti Forzati e aggiungo un messaggio di sistema alla Persona per controllare le cose. Ad esempio: “visita tutti i siti web trovati nella ricerca di Google”. Questo è necessario per un caso d’uso che ho.

Penso di aver individuato il bug qui… in generale, max_tools era lì per evitare lunghe catene con chiamate agli strumenti, ma ci sono probabilmente 2 tipi diversi di max:

• Massimo numero di round trip con l’LLM prima di rispondere
• Quantità massima di chiamate agli strumenti (che può essere molto più alta)
• Massimo contesto che gli strumenti possono iniettare. (ad esempio, se si supera il contesto con 3 chiamate agli strumenti e poi se ne aggiungono altre 2 che fanno dimenticare al modello 2 risposte degli strumenti)

Ci penserò su, è risolvibile.

[sam (Sam Saffron)]

Recentemente ho aumentato molto i numeri, come sta andando ora?