New and improved /about page is live

[Jagster (Jakke Lehtonen)]

@Overgrow

It’s just your instance

Well, not exacly because mine category mods are missing from about too.

[JammyDodger]

Is it a group visibility thing as @Overgrow suggested?

[tobiaseigen]

No, we just did not think about category moderators when we created the new about page. It was an accidental oversight, not intentional. I just tested here on meta-if you switch back to the original about page, you can see the category moderators there, but they don’t show with the new page. To be honest, I am not even sure why category moderators show up on the about page, and it seems to me that we should surface that information in a different place like in the category itself.

All the feedback here has been super helpful so far, and we will create a list and think about what we might still like to do now before finishing up this new change. We are not going to be making big changes anymore for the moment. But we will, of course, fix any bugs or glaring omissions.

[Jagster (Jakke Lehtonen)]

This must be some language barrier issue again. Because that group is visible for everyone as it should?

Edit: and Tobias answered at same time.

[Overgrow (OG)]

@tobiaseigen

I just tested here on meta-if you switch back to the original about page, you can see the category moderators there, but they don’t show with the new page.

Sorry I should clarify that I was referring to the original implementation.

[Heliosurge (Dan DeMontmorency)]

@Overgrow

It’s just your instance. Or rather the settings. Category moderators show just fine on our instance… Maybe it’s because the user group with the moderation privileges is publicly visible

Interesting. My group is publicly visible and was showing them prior to enabling the new about page.

That clarifies it. You were referring to the old. I was referring to the new layout. Which is a plus imho.

[nwnuyhs (Yang Hongsheng)]

Bug ：member number is not correct

[Moin]

• I would use different icons for admins and moderators. In topics only moderators are highlighted with the shield, so it is confusing if it is also used for admins. This has already been discussed in Differentiate Admin and Moderator Shield Icons, but there it was about a page for admins and not for everyone. Maybe something like:
  

  
  
  Though things are more complicated when users are admin and moderatos

• I would also remove the icon in front of “Our Admins”. At the old about page all headings had an icon at the beginning. But since all the other icons were removed, this one could be removed as well
  

• And I think “today” is a bit misleading, because depending on when you look at it, “today” can be just a few hours. Perhaps “in the last 24 hours” would be better. That would also be consistent with “in the last 7 days”

[Isambard]

Are admin powers a superset of the moderator powers? If so, I guess we just need an admin icon and that’s enough.

[nolo (Manuel)]

@tobiaseigen

To be honest, I am not even sure why category moderators show up on the about page, and it seems to me that we should surface that information in a different place like in the category itself.

For some use cases this could be really helpful and recognizing for category moderators!

[KhoiUSA]

Wow, this is certainly a huge step up from the previous about page. Can’t wait to get this on my forum!

[tobiaseigen]

Thanks for all the feedback, everyone! We are looking into a few things:

• add a link to edit at the top, just to admins
• fix the banner width so it resizes to fill the width of the space available, both on mobile and on desktop
• check on the stats and explain where the numbers come from
• check on the number of members and explain the discrepancies between the number of members shown here, on the admin dashboard, and in the user list
• remove icons preceding “Our Admins” and “Our Moderators”
• write an evergreen documentation topic for when this becomes the new about page

Feature requests we will keep in mind but not do now:

• allow admins and moderators to be excluded from the about page, by user pref or group
• light/dark mode options for banners
• desktop/mobile options for banners
• different icon for admins vs moderators as per Differentiate Admin and Moderator Shield Icons
• allow selecting different timeframes for site stats

[tobiaseigen]

@nwnuyhs

Bug ：member number is not correct

Thanks for pointing this out. The numbers are different because on the user list page tally, we exclude users that are in the database but are not active participants in your community. This includes:

• inactive
• staged
• silenced
• unapproved
• anonymous mode

This more accurately reflects the total number of members in your community, so will update the about page to match the number on the user list.

On the admin user list and in reports you will still be able to see all users.

[tobiaseigen]

In case you missed it, we did just about everything I listed a few posts up which I will check off there. A documentation topic is in the works that will explain things, and then we will make this the only about page for everyone.

@tobiaseigen

• allow admins and moderators to be excluded from the about page, by user pref or group

We did say we would not do this but did it anyway. There is an admin setting now about page hidden groups which you can use to exclude people. This should help folks like @pfaffman who want to exclude themselves from the about page on sites they help manage but don’t want to be listed.

We also have an idea to provide another group to show specified groups on the about page, defaulting to admins and moderators, which I think would be pretty neat! But it does potentially introduce some complexity, and in any case is not a priority for this round.