搜索存在一些问题(排序、搜索已删除帖子等)

We have now been running our discourse installation for over four years. During that time a lot of cool stuff and good memories were born, including a nickname or two, in-jokes and partially a lingo of our own.

Four years is quite a long time, so it’s inevitable that at some point we’ve set off on a road trip down the memory lane, trying to figure out some of the exact dates stuff was born to have some context, you get the gist of it.

I’ve now bumped into some issues regarding the search, first of which is the fact that you simply can’t search deleted posts. Since you can’t completely destroy deleted posts, why can’t we search them either? I would imagine this type of limbo is exactly the opposite of what little benefits hiding posts would have.

That however, I can live with because I like the idea that there are discourse instances out there that are swelling up with flagged old post gold just waiting to be discovered by future civilizations or sentient, rubbernecking extraterrestrial lifeforms.

Also, trying to find the first occurrence of something seems to fail miserably every time I try it, and looking for context using the date limits apparently has some hidden logic that I’m unaware of, making post dates irrelevant.

The sorting options all feel like they just randomize in different ways how the same, probably unwanted results are shown. The one option that is missing, is to sort the hits by actual post date.

The advanced search feels like flying in “No Man’s Land”, you get all sorts of buttons you can press that gives you the illusion of you doing the flying at first, but in the end just emphasize the feeling of wrestling a railroaded automation which does get you where you want to go.

Now it’s important to say that the fuzziness of Discourses’ search is insanely good. Throwing around a few incomplete words slightly, or even possibly related to each other, and you get what you want within the first five hits? Almost like magic.

So, I guess, my question is, how would I be able to find actual, first occurrence of a word in a discourse forum?

I thought you could in advanced search @sam? Not sure though.

Selecting order by latest isn’t working for you? Oh wait you want the oldest item not the newest one. That’s a bit weirder.

Seems to work OK for me? money before:2013-03-20

The problem is that this kind of search can be used only from the staff members, all the other users will see at least no result. For now we can search between deleted topics appending /latest?status=deleted to the site URL. I would opt instead to make it works from the search panel simply manually adding status:deleted. I don’t know if it’s possible to do such a thing only for posts.

I am not sure we keep deleted posts in the search index, should we even? This means we are bloating all this index for data that is not searched.

in:deleted is a trivial 5 minute change if @tgxworld wants to take it, just not sure how deleted topics and posts interact with the index. Also not 100% sure I want to keep deleted content in the index bloating it.

“order by oldest” is probably the most easily actionable request here but it is … odd.

抱歉没能及时跟进此事,但正如我们大家都认同的那样,最近的情况确实有些动荡。

乍听之下确实有些奇怪,但其实这并不那么离谱 :smiley: 希望我能就此阐明一些情况。

例如,我们最近相当成功地将一个运行了 12 年、基于 BBPress 的爱好论坛迁移到了 Discourse。

这 12 年间涵盖了大量的讨论,包括术语和行话的兴衰,甚至在更广泛的背景下也出现了不少新现象。因此,如果有人想追溯某个特定事物首次被提及或沿用至今的称呼是在何时,这其实并不奇怪 :point_up: :bulb:

无论此类功能是否新颖,我都坚信,当内容按某种属性以特定顺序展示时,应该能够实现反转排序。

我再次尝试查找某个特定单词的首次出现,但我确信,按最新帖子排序时,显示的最后一个帖子并不是该单词在论坛中首次出现的地方 :thinking:

这是否可能是由于出现该术语的原始主题被置顶,或者该主题中存在更晚的出现?

无论如何,我都找不到我要找的东西 :person_shrugging:

这是你需要用户在实际搜索中包含的内容,还是可以使用Data-Explorer

我一定会看看这个插件,因为这是一个非常特殊的情况。Discourse 内置的搜索功能对于 99.9% 的情况来说都非常出色,但这个情况有点棘手。