关于被社区标记隐藏帖子的建议

是否有人也认为以下更改对帖子标记系统是有意义的?

如果帖子被标记并被隐藏——它将像现在一样被隐藏,并且同样会显示在审核队列中,这也与现在的情况一致。从那里,版主可以对帖子采取行动。目前这些选项是:

首先,最好让“保持帖子隐藏”和“忽略”之间的区别更加明显,也许还可以将“删除”重命名为“删除帖子”。也许“同意并保持隐藏”可能更具描述性?(我假设如果您同意,这也会计入针对帖子/用户的标记总数?)

其次,这也是提出此建议的主要原因,我想知道我们是否需要一个选项,在完全从公共视图中移除帖子的同时,给予用户修复它的机会(即一个“完全隐藏并发送备注”的选项,可以从该视图输入消息)。然后(这是重要部分),在帖子被标记后经过编辑的帖子会被放入审核队列中,由版主决定编辑是否得当,并可以从中“取消删除”,或者如果编辑不得当,可以点击一个选项要求他们再次编辑。顺便说一句,我认为这需要对所有被标记并保持隐藏的帖子进行,而不仅仅是那些完全从公共视图中移除的帖子。

我认为这将极大地帮助审核工作,并几乎消除我们需要亲自编辑用户帖子的需求。这样,我们可以让他们知道如何恢复他们的帖子,他们可以自己决定是否要这样做。

//CC’ing @HAWK 正如我们在此处讨论的那样。

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I agree that we could make it more clear by changing to Ignore Flag.

I’d be keen to see whether there are others that would also benefit from your second suggestion. I don’t think we have a rule of 3 here yet.

I haven’t ever edited a post myself as a moderator – there is some onus on the masses not to click into a hidden post, but I’m kinda ok with that.

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Curiosity will almost always get the better of people :upside_down_face:

On a more serious note, one of the occasions we edit posts is to remove a personal attack/remark, and the whole reason we step in as early as possible is so that the person who it is aimed at does not see it (or has less chance of seeing it) because once they do the damage is done. Unfortunately it is the slippery slope that leads to interpersonal issues developing, which, over time can drag more and more members into it leading to bigger inter community issues.

We have been criticised for removing personal remarks in the past (and I personally stand by us doing so - there’s no need for personal attacks on a forum for civil discourse) but I would much prefer us not being put in that position to begin with, and this change would really help.

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I get what you’re saying but to play devil’s advocate (again!) – if we make it our job to run diversion by editing posts and letting the attacker remain a member, we’re enabling them, not mandating change. As my mum would say, if we allow it, we teach it.

That said, if others agree weigh in here and agree with you, I’ll concede.

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I think we have to keep in mind we’re dealing with human beings Sarah - none of us are infallible. Sometimes if somebody is having a bad day, or going through some personal issues (such as a bereavement, breakup or job loss) they might slip below their otherwise high standard.

Things can become compounded when you have someone in the midst of a debate and where it seems that ‘everyone is against them’, which can lead to them feeling bullied and snapping as a result.

On top of that, in a way we have to help people unlearn all the bad habits they have picked up from platforms like Twitter - where hostility and abuse is pretty much encouraged because that’s what keeps people flocking back to such platforms. Even with this aside, I feel we have a duty of care to our users to account for genuine misunderstandings and mishaps. In these cases I feel it’s even more important to help defuse such situations and prevent escalation in what may be an otherwise perfectly harmonious community or relationship between the users involved.

Hope this helps shed some further light - I wasn’t joking when I said discussions on this topic could get very big :relaxed:

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Maybe Ignore should be renamed Ignore Flag. A new button named Keep Hidden Pending Edit (without agreeing with the flag). That way you’re not agreeing with the flag - yet. I agree the Delete button should read Delete Post.
I had a case where a user flagged another user’s reply because she quoted her multiple times and felt as though everything she said “was being picked apart.” Of course it wasn’t the case, but the two users in question had a “cat fight” a long time ago. A slight animosity still lingers? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:
Anyway, I read and re-read each post many times and could not find anything wrong with the reply that was flagged. But before I clicked Disagree and Restore Post, I PM’d the flagger and explained that I read and re-read both posts and found nothing wrong with them. I also explained that other users have also used multiple quotes - not just from multiple user’s posts but all from one individual. They weren’t “picking their post apart”, they were responding to each thing that was said. The user finally agreed with me… reluctantly. Only after I told her I was restoring the post did I actually do it. That took care of that part of the flag problem.
The second part was the post flagged was made by a Mod! Of course she saw the flagged post. Sooo… another exchange of PMs with her. :roll_eyes: I did get (hopefully) the situation ended or at least quieted for now.
I would like to see an option to *Keep Post Hidden" without a “thumbs up” (or agree) until the problem can be worked out. Think of it as “pause button.” Now that I just typed this, it just struck me… what I did - not clicking anything - is the same as clicking pause.

Keeping a flagged post hidden until it is edited is good. If that’s what the post needs, so long as an edit comes in a timely period is fine. Having a post restored days later and having a string of posts below it (so the post would probably not be seen) isn’t much good. I actually thought about this, thinking if I don’t get a reply within 24 hours, the post is being restored without any additional exchange between me and the flagger - other than my original PM explaining my thoughts/decision on the matter.

Aside, whenever I come up with any new ideas I always remember what @codinghorror said, “Keep it simple.” Then I think whether or not what I came up with keeps things simple or just adds another layer of potential problems. I wouldn’t want Discourse to become bloated and slowed down like MS’s software. :roll_eyes: :laughing:

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