I’d love to get notifications about new posts on my private discoure(s) via facebook.
I’ve actually moved much of our conversations from a facebook group to a discourse forum because it gives more control over categorization and structure. The facebook groups are basically free form and make it difficult to target various things without having separate groups.
Its more for the other people to get syndicated notifications and not have to keep checking discourse. Its hard enough to get some people to check their emails regularly, but they are always available via facebook chat.
I ran a fan forum from 2003-2009 that centered around a particular folk band. It had around 1,000 registered users with 150 really active users.I had to shut it down due to money and time restraints.
A year later, some members started a group on Facebook. But they made it private and invite only. Why? It’s not like they’re having controversial or “adult” conversations. Just sharing their love of a band with like-minded people. And that’s the thing. They just want to go somewhere that’s not connected to their family or co-workers so they don’t get heckled or teased for this thing they like that’s maybe not “cool”.
There are other examples I could point to. Like I’m openly gay, but I don’t want to talk about gay culture in my work/family network of mostly straight people who question why there’s even such a thing as gay culture. They don’t get it, and that’s okay…they don’t need to. But I need a space to talk about things with people who do get it.
As for lists and circles, I don’t like feeling paranoid about whether I’m broadcasting to the right circle/list. I’d rather just know it’s separate because I’m on a separate site. I’ve seen people accidentally broadcast some offhand political/cultural/religious remark they only meant to say to a few people, and it caused WWIII in their network.
At some point Facebook will be “uncool,” if it already isn’t. Content you post on Facebook is basically lost and/or inaccessible once you leave, which sucks. When you post to an independently owned forum, there is a better chance of that information being preserved and then being seeing by other people in the future – publicly – through search engines, which I think is great.
Knowledge bases are going to be eaten up by Facebook unless we can promote the usage of software like Discourse.
What I generally hear about Google groups is that they don’t scale, have lots of spam problems, poor moderation tools, etc. It’s sort of a very thin web veneer over USENET, not exactly a marvel of modern human interaction techniques or user interface.
I think if someone is trying to decide if they want to use a Facebook group for example or discourse, one feature you could say Facebook has is that everyone is using their real name (well most people).
I signed in to discourse with Facebook, but there is no indication I did. I’m sure not all discourse forums would want this, but for some communities it might be a bit of a built in reputation system if discourse would verify somehow that you logged in with a certain Facebook account, or Google+ account. For a community with a buy and sell section for example I can see how this would be good. For example, I’m in a couple Facebook groups exclusively that are buy and sell type of groups, but there is no way that those groups can be effective discussion groups too, as there are 1000+ members and it is just full of posts of items for sale, no real way to have categories. But there is a sort of built in trust system there, making Facebook attractive for groups like that.
I would even go further and have an indication in the person’s discourse profile, like a link to their Facebook account and some sort of “Verified” checkmark like the blue checkmark some twitter accounts have. Maybe you could even verify your Facebook, Google+ and Twitter if you wanted to. Anyone like that idea?
Unlike @BhaelOchon I think this would be a cool thing. Weird, but interesting idea. It’s like being able to unify notifications… But, here’s the point: that’s what emails are for. Facebook is trying too hard to “be the internet” for kids, and kids are buying it.
This isn’t necessarily advantageous for a community with a specific topic, as many have mentioned. I, for one, don’t like anonymity. I really think the world would be a better place without it, and eventually we might get there as we tend to remove all problems with communicating. Usually defenders of the need for being anonymous talk about agents who need to be secret and stuff, but in the very end, to me, that’s just a symptom of bad communication among countries.
Still lots of people will insist we need to be anonymous sometimes. And we got to respect that.
With discourse you go as you wish. You want to be anonymous, there you go. You want to use your real name? Connect your profile to plus and facebook, and vice-versa, you’ll have your identity there. There’s no need to drag this over, the community identity is what really matters for most communities anyway.
One reason haven’t been cited yet, maybe because it probably won’t convince anyone to move: because it’s way better for async conversations. Way way better. And it’s better than anything out there, including reddit.
That being said, this is a great topic to me. Lots of reasons I haven’t thought of bringing in when I evangelize it to people. They sound so much more appealing!
I’d argue, from what I could compile, the following are the top ones, which aren’t cited anywhere in the home (I think it have way too technical pages).
For community managers:
Monetization. The forum is yours, it’s open, and you can do as you please. This is to forums what wordpress was to blogs.
SEO. You can find stuff in it with Google. Even in google groups you can’t find it as easily as in discourse.
Yours to keep. Being open source means all data is yours and all business is yours.
Works on mobile. Unlike most of other ones.
Best search. Easy to find with its own search tool, creating topics will bring likely duplicates, related topics on the bottom, and google friendly.
Filter noise. With categories it’s easier to browse and seek for new subjects or topics. Also in a big community you can select a few specific categories of your interest to filter all noise out.
Your identity. Not different from any other forums, but different from google, facebook and linkedin, you identify yourself in a different way, the way you want it. Be anonymous if you need to. Disconnect from work or family. Or connect if you want.
Keep conversations going. No matter for how long. Without disruption. Categories, starting new topics, moderation, innovative thread reply without removing timeline. There are many many tools in place to make conversations flow.
I think Facebook is becoming “the internet” for moms, not kids
(ibtimes…not the most trusted source for news, but first link I found)
Right, but there is only a way to register using Facebook or Google+, etc. There isn’t a way to “connect” your discourse profile to those accounts (ie, uses the Facebook avatar and something in the user’s profile says their account is linked to a certain url facebook account) for those users that want to be known as the same person they are on Facebook.
There are a couple Facebook groups I’d like to encourage users to switch to discourse and features like that would help a lot. It can’t be just me, lots of forums are losing their users to Facebook groups.
What I meant is that if you simply link your facebook profile in discourse you’ve already connected it. And if you link back your discourse profile on facebook, you make it “legit”. So you actually can be known as the same person either way. Discourse is not meant to be “dead plain easy and simple” to join. We want to keep some level of difficulty as a small filter. I think an easy way to “connect” facebook profile would go against that.
Also, unless facebook implements discourse within itself, you probably won’t be able to convince anyone to switch over. People don’t just move over. No feature will help you there. Your best bet would be closing the facebook group. People are lazy as hell when it’s about learning something new, no matter how much better it is.