Here it is, now see reply and create options are not enabled that must be the problem.
Figured this was probably a simple setting like that, little surprising that when new group is added permission default is they can only see not reply or create.
Edit: This does not seem to be the case when testing other category and adding new groups, default is when new group joins they can both reply and create. May be some other setting or reason why that would happen?
Have found that when everyone group is removed, that changes this default for settings when new groups configured for category.