I’ve got a suspicion there is a missing API here. Data Explorer has become more and more useful as part of a Plugin workflow, but: How do we reliably but tolerantly add Data Explorer queries from a third party plugin so we can fail gracefully without jeopardising the build but also retry each time…

[image] pfaffman: Why do you need data explorer ? Is the point to create queries that an end user will use? Yes, exactly that. Data Explorer is getting to a point where you can use it for administrative tasks for those with elevated roles in a process.

You could have a job that runs to check that they are installed. It wouldn’t start until everything’s running. But to make sure stuff isn’t broken you can check that some data explorer call is available. I think that’s what I’m doing for subscriptions, maybe. (It’s early and I haven’t opened my lap…

Yes, that option is missing from the list of available options, I’ll add it. But having a job running (which will continue to run periodically and check) seems a bit wasteful? Good suggestion though (and I have considered this but it felt a bit …)

Maybe you just queue it to run once at startup? And it would run until the test for the plugin succeeded or die after some minutes?

I like the enqueue on initialisation idea. That potentially overcomes the loading issue. I prefer that to the once every 24 hour option. Might give that a go! Thanks!

[image] merefield: is there a way to fail/put off a migration without stopping the build? btw, the answer to this would also be generally useful for a broader set of problems.

I think just putting your test somewhere that it gets rescued if it fails is all you need. But can’t you just test to see if something like DataExplorer.something exists? I do not know enough about using migrations to have considered using them for your use case. You could also have an endpoint tha…

How to add Data Explorer Queries automatically from a Plugin?

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pfaffman (Jay Pfaffman) June 2, 2025, 9:38am 2

I’ll take a look at my code that depends on the subscription plugin.

Why do you need data explorer? Is the point to create queries that an end user will use?

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How to add Data Explorer Queries automatically from a Plugin?

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