Unlist option in Topic Timer

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Unlist Option in Topic Timer Discussion

The discussion revolves around the idea of adding an “unlist” option to the Topic Timer feature. Drew_Warwick proposes this feature to automate the process of unlisting topics after a certain period, citing the need to prevent duplicates from cluttering search results and to prevent users from digging up old, inappropriate topics.

However, codinghorror questions the need for unlisting, suggesting archiving or deleting instead. Drew_Warwick explains that archiving doesn’t suit their needs due to the reasons mentioned above, and deleting is not preferable as it would prevent users from accessing their old topics.

sam suggests an alternative approach by heavily de-prioritizing archived topics, making them show up last in search results. mcwumbly proposes a checkbox in search to include archived topics, defaulting to off.

codinghorror agrees with sam and suggests implementing this feature to strengthen archiving as a whole.

My ideal workflow for closing topics is:

  1. Lock topic
  2. Add post explaining why it was locked
  3. Leave it listed so users see why it was locked instead of it mysteriously disappearing
    • Otherwise it may look like we’re just closing topics we don’t like without good reason
  4. Unlist topic a day later
    • Duplicates don’t clutter search
    • Inappropriate topics can’t be dug up

Manually unlisting the topic a day later is inconvenient. I could use the auto-delete timer, but generally we prefer unlisting over deleting. Even if the OP misses the 24 hour window before the topic gets hidden, we still want them to be able to get back into the topic with the link we sent them in feedback PMs so they can:

  • Copy info from their topic that wasn’t posted in the topic they duplicated and add it there
  • Review a topic of theirs that got closed and reason about it with a level head

Since deleting a topic isn’t a great option in our case, it’d be nice if forum mods/admins could use the Topic Timer to schedule the topic to be unlisted automatically in addition to the existing options.

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Unlisting is a weird choice here. Why not archive instead? Or simply delete.

Archiving doesn’t really suit our needs. In the case of duplicate threads, we don’t want them showing up in the search (hard to find the one, true thread when there are a bunch of archived duplicates polluting results). Since they’re fully searchable, it’s also still possible for users to dig up dirt e.g. “haha look at this bad thread you posted a year ago”. Unlisting or deleting are preferable by far in these cases.

As for deleting, we still want the OP to be able to go back into their thread with the link we send in feedback PMs for reasons mentioned in the OP. Unlisting seems like the best option for us.

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One thing I would like to do is heavily de-prioritize archived topics so by default they always show up last. Then you don’t need to remove the topics from search.

We are also considering per-topic / per-category “custom search” bumps so you can prioritize stuff better.

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I could even see a case for a checkbox in search, default off, “include archived topics”

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If this is not too difficult that’s what I would recommend. We need to strengthen archive as a feature anyway.. archived topics are a topic with “one foot in the grave”, as in they may be moved out to cold storage elsewhere.

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